However apart from the rather hysterical tone, the combined comments contain no truth or inclination to be truthful on this important issue. Apart from simply putting it on the record, I see very little point in engaging with people who support fascism and imperialism ridiculously calling Russia imperialist, and who deny the Ukrainian fascist onslaught on the civilian population of Donetsk since 26 May 2014.
Initially when reading one comment, I thought it was a readout from Sky News as the same lying pro-Nazi rhetoric is used, particularly the falsehood about Ukraine’s sovereignty and its origins. Suffice to say Ukraine as a state gave up its sovereignty when the US financed the Nazi-led coup in 2014. It is now fully owned and controlled by the US State Department to be used as cannon fodder in the US/UK war on Russia and the Russian population of former eastern Ukraine.
Additionally I would dismiss the ridiculous nonsense of supporting Ukrainian nationalism, which in reality means following the ideology of Stepan Bandera the Ukrainian Nazi collaborator in WW2. And as for the Ukrainian nation referred to in the comments, Ukrainian nationalism derives only from what is now west Ukraine, the province/Kingdom of Galicia.
Central and eastern Ukraine are not the same people, they are not Ukrainian speaking, which is one of the reasons they refused to live under the fascist coup regime that banned their culture and language. So to Sky News followers and other pro-NATO supporters, such as those who feigned hysteria at my article, who refuse to acknowledge the truth and choose to ignore the Ukrainian genocide against the Russian speaking population, comprising one-third of the state I would ask: do you still support the daily Ukrainian shelling and killing of the civilians of Donetsk city?
And do you continue to stand over the burning to death of over fifty people in the Odesa trade union building by Ukrainian Nazis in 2014? Because when you express support for the Kiev regime, that is what you are supporting, along with; Ukraine’s fascist International Legion, Britain’s SAS gunmen who are also fighting alongside the Nazi battalions, and all the international bandits of NATO. The good news is; NATO and its fascist proxy are being utterly defeated.
🖼 Michael O’Rourke is a former POW imprisoned on behalf of the INLA.
Do you even know the meaning of fascism and Nazi?
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DeleteDo you even know the meaning of fascism and Nazi?
I do. Ivan Kuzmin was both a fascist and a Nazi. Ivan is a Russian speaking Ukrainian and when he was a teenager his family moved to Tel Avi for a better quality of life. In Ukraine Ivan was called "a dirty jew" and when he arrived in Israel as a teenager he was called a "stinking Russian"...So he started hanging around with other eastern European Jews living in Israel and they formed a fascist Nazi group called 'Patrol 36' and they beat up Jews and non-Jews, after a few years and public out cries for it to stop the police stepped in and charged Ivan Kuzmin with racist Nazi crimes and they told him either he gives up Patrol 36 and turns state evidence or he is going to jail......(the link is from Journey Man Pictures and only 14mins)........
I know you aren't a fan of Netanyahu. But you both have revisionist mindset. A 1min 12 second video of Nazi revisionism by Netanyahu. He say (paraphrase him)...That Hitler didn't want to kill Jews but wanted to put Jews on a plane to the promised land and the holocaust was Haj Amin al -Husseini's idea..............
If you want another example of Nazism, fascism, Israel and the Ukraine war then open this link and watch a 13min news report called "Israel Is Arming Ukraine's Blatantly Neo-Nazi Militia the Azov Battalion".......
And if you want an update on how entrenched Nazism is in Israel today.... try this link..........
Do you even know the meaning of fascism and Nazi?
What do you think Barry...Think I understand?
What you call a US financed Nazi coup in 2014 was a democratic uprising in Maidan Square against a kleptocratic regime which cancelled a popular association agreement with the EU.
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DeleteBarry,
DeleteWhat you call a US financed Nazi coup in 2014 was a democratic uprising in Maidan Square against a kleptocratic regime which cancelled a popular association agreement with the EU.
As I said you and Netanyahu are in to revisionism and Rambo is very economical with the truth. Here is a sugar coated interview he gave to the BBC recently explaining why the Ukrainian Spring offensive is now into the Summer and why Ukraine is losing (listen carefully to what he says about the mines).....Now about a week before Rambo spoke to the BBC, Col Doug Macgregor spoke to Judge Napolitano ( its 30mins long). And unlike Rambo's BBC interview it is not sugar coated. In the interview. Col Doug Macgregor names who he believes in Washington gave the nod to blow up the dam, explains how and why Ukraine is losing big time, why eastern Ukraine is a mine field, why Russia wont be the first to launch a nuke.....and why Michael O’Rourke is spot on about a " US financed Nazi coup in 2014 " in Ukraine.
Barry when you fist wave like Alf Garnett shouting "Putin is a war criminal" do you ever factor into your equation 'Frankie fact checks' like these...Last year in Dallas George W Bush said what Putin is doing today , the west done in Iraq......In September 29, 2021 Harvard Political Review published a piece called 'Barack Obama Is A War Criminal' and it outlines Obama's alleged war crimes. The Donald doesn't get off even though he didn't start any new wars. He was the person who gave the nod to the banks to allow them to impose sanctions on Fatou Bensouda who at the time was 'the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. And the sanctions were placed on her for doing the job she was appointed to do.....' (worth a skim).
The next two 'Frankie fact checks' are from the BBC... Court finds UK war crimes but will not take action (Dec2020)....."The ICC report refers to evidence of a pattern of war crimes carried out across a number of years by soldiers from several British regiments. Some detainees were raped or subjected to sexual violence. Others were beaten so badly they died from their injuries."......... And down under Ben Roberts-Smith who is Australia's most-decorated living soldier lost his court case after he was proven guilty of war crimes, bullying peers, and assaulting his mistress.
US financed Nazi coup in 2014 ....
Barry again enter into the world of Hunter Biden's laptop and read for yourself how the west not only financed the coup in 2014 but also how the Biden crime family skimmed millions from Ukrainian working class tax payers. The Biden crime family also laundered millions more through Ukraine and Rambo said noting because he was (still is) taking brown envelopes that he hides in off shore accounts
(I deleted the above comment because I fcuked up and when Iwas linking my ;Frankie fact checks;...I fcuked up and some links got 'linked' together and one paragraph looked like a red mess that wouldn't open...So I copied my text, fixed the links and posted again)
Barry Gilheany comments
DeleteFrankie, I and other TPQ readers just need click on any of the links that Jim Monaghan has provided on Ukraine in order to refute the lies that Putin apologists keep regurgitating about the 2014 Maidan uprising being a "US financed Nazi coup." I would also not trust anything that Blumenthal and his Greyzone fake news outfit says as they are notorious shills for Assad and Putin. I do not defend war criminals in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine or anywhere else. But such does not lessen the genocidal nature of Putin's war in Ukraine and I have yet to see you condemn one single atrocity perpetrated by his forces. He is the 21st century Hitler with nukes.
Remind me when it was when Ukraine joined NATO.
ReplyDeleteBarry......
DeleteAt the minute they haven't. And while Ukraine's membership isn't up for discussion at the Vilnius summit in July what NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said a few days ago is interesting......
"We are not going to discuss an invitation at the Vilnius summit, but how we can move Ukraine closer to NATO. I am confident that we will find at good solution and consensus at the Vilnius summit on how to be able to move Ukraine close to NATO,......One [element] is to move Ukraine closer [to NATO] in practical terms. That's the comprehensive assistance package, but not least the multi-year program to help them move from Soviet-era standards, doctrines, equipment to NATO standards, doctrines and equipment and to be fully interoperable with NATO. That'll take time. We've actually worked on that for many years, but the more we succeed in making Ukrainian forces fully interoperable with NATO, the closer they come to NATO in practical terms......."There we're now very close to finalizing the agreement to establish the NATO-Ukraine Council, and that will be something different than the commission, where 31 allies meet Ukraine. That will be the body of 32: 31 allies and Ukraine equally sitting at the table with the same rights and the same possibilities to consult and to make decisions together if we find that the right thing to do. And we will bring Ukraine closer to NATO in political terms," ....................................
Looks to me that Ukraine has more than its big toe in NATO already and soon will be sitting around the same table with equal rights......
This piece is from Anti was.com..."Ukraine Still Pushing for NATO Membership Commitment at Summit"............."Ukraine was first promised it would eventually become a NATO member at the 2008 Bucharest summit but was never given a clear timeline. NATO made the commitment in 2008 even though then-US Ambassador to Russia William Burns, who now serves as CIA director, warned at the time in a cable released by WikiLeaks that Ukrainian entry into NATO was a major redline for Moscow...........
Ukraine has every right as an independent democratic nation to join NATO and the EU and moves to do so should be expedited. And don't you just luv it when the mob falls out with each other!
DeleteBarry, Ukraine has more right to join NATO than Moscow has to stop it joining. That applies to Ireland as well. But I very much hope that neither join NATO. I feel we are going to have a battle on our hands to stay out of it but at least President Michael D has focused public attention on it.
DeleteI remember when the Sticks with some success branded the IRSP, Costello and teh Provos as fascists. Russia is a lesser imperialist power. Scholastic marxists, so-called, have a fetish about export of finance capitalism as a definition. Lenin regarded Tsarist Russia as imperialist, even though it was dominated by foreign capital. As for Bandera and co. there is the Gaand Mufti of Jerusalem, Subhas Chandra Bose and here at home, John Mitchell and Sean Russell. And if it suited the heroic Frank Ryan would be included as well.The separatists, a minority, like loyalist always in a 9 county Ulster, are the equivalent of Loyalists. A good rebuttal here. Following his logic, no complaints about the treatment of Uyghurs, Rohyinhas etc. etc. Western Imperialism is not the only source of evil in the world. https://mkaradjis.com/2023/06/15/ukraine-myths-used-to-justify-putins-terror/?fbclid=IwAR1TrZ5o5hUZ_yaOeVP73H2rbVpn_WssVy5hT59mDB8Bi0QzUiy0bTT2gjU
ReplyDeleteThe INLA, Provos etc. were all branded as Fascists. Ukraine has Bandera, France Laval, Palestine the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, India Subhas Chanda Bose and here Sean Russell, Donovan and earlier John Mitchell. Following his logic no complaints allowed about Rohyingas, Uyghurs, Crimean Tatars (worng type of mainly Sunni Muslim peoples. Good rebuttal here. https://mkaradjis.com/2023/06/15/ukraine-myths-used-to-justify-putins-terror/?fbclid=IwAR1TrZ5o5hUZ_yaOeVP73H2rbVpn_WssVy5hT59mDB8Bi0QzUiy0bTT2gjU
ReplyDeleteImperialism: a policy of extending a country's power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means.
ReplyDeleteUkraine of fighting a war of national liberation. This means a spread of political opinion.Not everyone who fought the late war here was a squeaky clean socialist.(Thinking og Gerry McGeough, various rightwing US people like Peter King) Russia is fighting a war of imperialist aggression.
ReplyDeleteThe weight of extreme rightwing obscurantist ideas in Russia is far stronger than in Ukraine.This figure ahs huge infleence in Russia.
Aleksandr Dugin: Alchemist of “Traditionalism”, mysticism and fascism - https://oaklandsocialist.com/2023/03/17/aleksandr-dugin-alchemist-of-traditionalism-mysticism-and-fascism/ (17 March 2023) • Alexander Dugin and Fascism on the Left - https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/10/alexander-dugin-and-fascism-on-the-left/ (10 April 2022) • Alexander Dugin and the West European New Right, 1989-1994 - https://www.academia.edu/27268254/Alexander_Dugin_and_the_West_European_New_Right_1989_1994 (2015) • All you need to know about the ICC’s arrest warrant for Putin - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/17/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-iccs-arrest-warrant-for-putin (17 March 2023)
It will make things much easier for readers if commenters follow Frankie's format when posting links.
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ReplyDeleteThe unfortunate thing about 'Frankie fact checks' is that some of your sources are from unverified Qanon and MAGA freaks. Col Doug Macgregor is a MAGA supporter --as such he follows the lead of his FührerTrump. And as unsavoury a creep Hunter Biden is, whatever truth the whole term 'Biden's laptop' has become so contaminated with conspiraciesand whacknuts that you have some neck to put them forward as sources for your fact checking.
Ps: If Frankie fact checked he wouldnt rely on Qanon and MAGA as primary sources.
For example is defending Putin as a War Criminal you saying that Putin did not kidnap hundreds of Ukrainian children. The mass attacks on Ukrainian civilians and civilain infrasture is fake news. The mass graves of tortured and executed civilians is also fake news. There are no real facts to support you on any of these atrocities.
The actual true facts you cite do not support your arguments because they do not compare at the same level as Putin war crimes. Western special forces and regulars have committed war crimes but there is no proof that they are sanctioned as State level --the fact that you cite prosecutions means that Australia and the Brits will prosecute their own when the break international law.
Frankie, what is your genuine opinion on the war in Ukraine? Special military operation or war of imperialist aggression waged by a reincarnation of Hitler with nukes? Most Quillers go with the latter.
ReplyDeleteBarry, I am not sure most Quillers see it in those terms - Hitler with nukes. Be wary of Godwin's Law. Most here would oppose the Russian war very strongly but not every imperialist mission is on a par with the Nazis even when they commit Nazi like atrocities.
DeleteBarry his opinion on Putin's war is pretty clear when his whole objective is to try to introduce whataboutary --citing small scale warcrimes of individuals to justify or minimise Putin's war crimes. And he is in the realm of whacknuts trying to hyperinflate Hunter Biden's criminality. Frankie and MAGA push the Laptop story as a counter narrative to Trump's exploitation of the Ukrains and the Billions they have amassed from the Saudis and Quat.
ReplyDeleteFrankies and MAGA carp is all projection in defence of Der Führer Trump.
Anthony, Putin's eliminationist war on Ukraine may not be of Nazi proportions but it is the same beast.
ReplyDeleteYet I see it as being no different from what Netanyahu is doing in Palestine. I don't see Netanyahu and Hitler as being the same beast.
DeleteChristy- part 1
ReplyDeleteYou, me and a boy named Sue are all entitled to hold opinions. What me and a boy name Sue never do is make up facts. I will continue to expose the truths no matter how uncomfortable they are. And anytime I link a 'Frankie fact check' today I always make sure I have more than 1 source****. As a rule of thumb I generally have at least 3 sources and they are from MSM, official documents or straight from the horses mouth...Kinda like the speech George W Bush gave in Dallas last year that I linked above when he said "What Putin is doing today in Ukraine the West done the same in Iraq...."
(**** the more than1 source. Thats because when I was a fledgling and not quite a Quiller I wrote a piece about how the elites are sex trafficking kids. In the piece I named a UK Celeb. who is alleged to have got very friendly with a 15 year old girl in a well known London night spot...The TPQ got back to me and asked me if I had more than one source for the claim, if not then the name wont be printed due to liable laws....I still believe my source....)
The unfortunate thing about 'Frankie fact checks' is that some of your sources are from unverified Qanon and MAGA freaks......
Again I don't visit or take my sources from 4 chan, 8 chan, Qanon, The Encyclopedia Dramatica or anything close to those sites. So why you keep making claims that I use them is beyond me.
Col Doug Macgregor is a MAGA supporter --as such he follows the lead of his FührerTrump.
I don't follow any ones lead. What I said (go back and read) was what Col Macgregor said to Judge Napolitano Rambo confirmed to the BBC a week later. I don't support MAGA never have. I think the Donald is great entertainment and thats about it with any support you think I have for The Donald.
And as unsavoury a creep Hunter Biden is, whatever truth the whole term 'Biden's laptop' has become so contaminated with conspiracies and whacknuts....
Lets 'Frankie fact check'...the conspiracy theorists and whacknuts you refer to...do you mean CNN who confirm the contents, the New York Post. who confirm the contents...... The Washington Post who confirm the contents.... Washington Examiner reported "FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real in 2019, IRS whistleblowers say".....( if you want more 'Frankie facts checks' I can supply them. It would be better if you done your own fact checking and start by looking at the contents of Hunters laptop yourself )
For example is defending Putin as a War Criminal you saying that Putin did not kidnap hundreds of Ukrainian children. The mass attacks on Ukrainian civilians and civilain infrasture is fake news.
Again I am not defending Putin. I did ask what is the difference between the west's illegal wars in the Middle East/Afghan and Russia's war in Ukraine. I have no reason to doubt what the ICC are saying about hundreds of kids being kip napped along the eastern border of Ukraine into Russia. And there is just as many kids and women being sex trafficked along Ukraine's western borders into the EU and beyond but I don't hear much talk about that.
Christy-part 2
ReplyDeleteThe mass attacks on Ukrainian civilians and civilian infrasture is fake news. The mass graves of tortured and executed civilians is also fake news. There are no real facts to support you on any of these atrocities.
Apart from the fact that both Russia and Ukraine are as guilty as each other when targeting civilians.... Example...Simon Pirani recently mentioned in an article on TPQ that “the Ukrainian armed forces have, on a much smaller scale, failed to comply with International Humanitarian Law rules on the conduct of hostilities”, especially by using explosive weapons in densely populated areas, and have committed human rights law abuses “although much more limited in scope”, including unlawful killings and arbitrary arrest and detention, particularly of people alleged to have collaborated with the Russian authorities.
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I went to say that Simon sugar coats the Ukrainian side. To me as I said to Antony in the comments section in Simons piece, a war crime is a war crime and some people play number games. And the truth is some war criminals can get away with murder. ...Who is the bigger war criminal George W Bush, Putin, Xi, Tony Blair.....Kissinger? .....So far they have all gotten away with murder.
the fact that you cite prosecutions means that Australia and the Brits will prosecute their own when they break international law.
Go back and read what I said about the difference between what happened to Ben Roberts-Smith from Australia and how the ICC and the then UK Gov turned a blind eye to war crimes carried out across a number of years by soldiers from several British regiments. Some detainees were raped or subjected to sexual violence. Others were beaten so badly they died from their injuries.....Again some people get charged with war crimes and others get away with murder...
Frankie and MAGA push the Laptop story as a counter narrative to Trump's exploitation of the Ukrains and the Billions they have amassed from the Saudis and Quat.
How many times I don't support The Donald. I was the first Quiller on TPQ to question his links to Epstein before most MSM outlets talked about it. Scroll back and open the link to Fatou Bensouda who at the time was the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. And how I said I disagree that The Donald gave the nod to impose sanctions on her for doing the job she was appointed to do. .....What she wanted to do was bring war crime charges to Obama and others. A lot of people let Ukraine down and exploited the country Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal or you could read Russia Scandal Befalls Two Brothers: John and Tony Podesta ( the last two 'Ftankie fact checks' are from the NY Times.....not the chan boards ,Qanon or other).....
On the bottom of every page of the Quill there's a quote from Carl Jung, "There's no coming to consciousness without pain". Likewise, there's no coming to a consensus without exploration, discussion, and debate. Though I may not always fall completely into line with Frankie I do welcome and generally enjoy his input.
ReplyDeleteI've been busy of late with a major renovation project, and while still managing to follow several threads including this one, I couldn't help but recall yet another quote from Jung, "People don't have ideas. Ideas have people."
Good to see you have not succumbed to some tropical disease. Must catch up with you shortly.
DeleteBarry/Christy/HJ......
ReplyDeleteBarry-----My honest opinion on Ukraine. Rambo has made somewhere in the region of $1.5 billion US green backs from the war. While the ICC will level as many war crime charges against Putin that they think will stick, he will get away with murder (like heads of state from the west and most NATO generals)....I also think there will be a few scapegoats who find themselves in the Hague and charged with war crimes....and on the eastern front women and children are being kidnapped and some are probably sexually abused while the rest are forced to go under some kind of conversion therapy to make them more Russian than the Russians...and on Ukraine's western borders women and kids are being trafficked out, some into the slave trade, others in to sex trafficking...and a lucky few get to live in the dream in a country of their choice................
Christy------The Washington Post 'FFC' should have read 'the WP can't confirm'...(called being balanced)..and if you want to know which Quiller suggested that I throw Col Macgregor into my equation about Ukraine then open this TPQ link and read the last comment...Does that make them a MAGA nutter as well....?
HJ----------On the subject of quotes on TPQ. I don't know if you read The Blanker when it was active. I discovered The Blanket by some sort of fluke one Thursday evening when I was living in the leafy suburbs of Paris (late summer/early Autumn 2006). Every week on the top right hand corner there was always a different quote, one Thursday I seen a quote by Arthur Schopenhauer.....(All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.) and as a rule of thumb that's what happens when I pen piece for TPQ or make a comment.... First I am laughed at and called a MAGA, Trumpian conspiracy theorist and I give them a few Frankie fact checks...And they start to oppose me to the point one or two Quillers suggested I be censored into Bates or cancelled outright...I reply with more FFC's and then they start saying things like "Frankie I never thought I'd say this but there is logic in your madness...........
Frankie - you are not going anywhere other than where you choose to go. The original 'Quiller', you are very much part of the furniture here.
DeleteAnthony,
ReplyDeleteThe only places I am going today is to see my good Rasta friend for some fresh herbs and then to my offy for some beer and back to my north Belfast penthouse ,although my friends like to remind me I live in the New Lodge flats ( to me iit's my north Belfast penthouse)....
The way to go in Frankie. As they say in Amsterdam, may you enjoy your high tea!
DeleteWith events in Russia/Ukraine over the last few hours anyone apart from me think that it is possible the CIA will dust down Operation Aerodynamic and at least use the division Yevgeny Prigozhinto has created to either stage a full on COUP or flip him and use his Wagner paramilitaries to open up a corridor for Ukraine to retake Crimea...
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be the first time the CIA dusted down one of their plans ....9/11 is Operation Northwood on steriods....
Have hope Frankie - it is all part of the plan. Moscow is the next Ukrainian city to be taken in the special military operation.
DeleteA big fat NO.
DeleteUS intelligence ‘knew Wagner was planning insurrection’ weeks ago
DeleteCIA chief sees failed mutiny as an opportunity for the US to recruit spies in Russia
Frankie
ReplyDeleteThe first link you provided 'CNN' is not CNN but to RNCResearch (Republican National Committee) twitter account -RNC is a proTrump MAGA election denier site representing the like of Margerie Taylor Crazy and Lauren Bubblehead ..better known for their lies and conspiracy theories. But that's how reliable Frankie Fact Checks. Ultimately the Trump appointed special council concluded there was nothing near what was being reported -
While your in text citation style hides the full URL where the reader can easily see that you were not citing CNN but a twitter account as follows https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1509147905264865282?s=20&t=EnrRAsCx6WJ3vX3FkhXmOg
So Frankie needs to be fact checked. Re: ""Frankie I never thought I'd say this but there is logic in your madness" that likely is not intended as you seem to think --for example there is a logic to Trumps madness but that does not detract from his rapist, lieing, grifting and general scumbag personality.
I do not believe the US was in any way behind the Prigozhin mutiny --but if it was that would be a master stroke for the Biden Administration. Putin and Prigozhin have started regime change countdown clock --Russia has been there before. The Russo-Japanese war of 1905 was another Russian failed imperialist war that became the cattalyst to huge political unrest toward the Czar which became the conduit for all the socio-political problems at the time. Is Russian history repeating itself?
PS: Frankie --I have called you out before for using disreputable and discredited weblinks as your primary sources. That is not fact checking but incorporating misleading or outright lies into your arguments. That is why I do not take you seriously.
ReplyDeleteChristy,
ReplyDeleteA heads up, stop putting spins on my FFC's. You can if you want but the only thing that will happen is you'll make yourself dizzy..........
So Frankie needs to be fact checked.
What you are calling into question is this quote..... "do you mean CNN who confirm the contents,"..............Someone open the twitter feed and tell Christy that the video in the feed is from CNN. And Christy while someone is checking my FFC why don't you open this CNN link and read for yourself what they report...
"The allegations – made in letters to the Delaware attorney general, the Justice Department’s National Security Division and the IRS – left at the Delaware repair shop. "......
for example there is a logic to Trumps madness but that does not detract from his rapist, lieing, grifting and general scumbag personality.
(On the subject of rape or sexual abuse, I have stated several times on TPQ that anyone found guilty of rape/sexually abusing children, women or men should be put in solitary confinement with no human contact for 30yrs and fed bread and water once a day through a hatch and after 30yrs the cell door is opened and if they are alive then shoot the bastard at dawn... ).....
I think you are referring to the recent civil case that The Donald lost to E Jean Carroll (BBC).....Shortly after the court case she went on CNN and told Anderson Cooper that "that rape is sexual and most people think rape is sexy"....Goto 8mins 40seconds and listen to what she says and how she says it.......Do you or anyone you know think rape is sexy Christy? I don't and neither does anyone I know.
Some people call him sleepy Joe others call him dopey Joe, I have always called him creepy Joe Biden. Now a few weeks ago creepy Joe went to Knock and got on his knees and gave it the Hail Mary, I wonder if he was asking for forgiveness because he committed adultery. And what is the difference between Tara Reade and Jean Carroll (apart from Tara never said she thinks rape is sexy).......
Back to Hunters laptop. Now you know CNN, Hunters legal team, FBI and every MSM source I can think of confirm the contents....Why don't you watch Hunter making porn, smoking crack or read about his money laundering exploits....
I read Hunter Biden's memoirs. He's very open about his crack smoking and raging alcoholism, and his having an affair with his deceased brother's wife. Leaving aside the politics of the story, of which I don't know much, Hunter struck me as a very flawed but decent enough fellow.
ReplyDeleteHe gave a good interview to Marc Maron on the WTF Podcast. I couldn't help thinking Hunter is a prime candidate for a relapse. I hope not, though.
WTF Podcast with Hunter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjz1Ehmyy0
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ReplyDeleteChristy.....
The complete second CNNquote that linked reads
The allegations – made in letters to the Delaware attorney general, the Justice Department’s National Security Division and the IRS – mark the first time President Joe Biden’s son and his legal team have publicly acknowledged that it was his personal data purported to be found on a laptop left at the Delaware repair shop.
(I'm in the middle of doing a HenryJoy and papering and painting my north Belfast penthouse and I wrote the reply around 3am---I think I can be forgiven for the omission)
I do not believe the US was in any way behind the Prigozhin mutiny --but if it was that would be a master stroke for the Biden Administration.
You probably believe the CIA weren't behind 9/11...and most will use 9/11 commission report to back up their argument. But once they understand that at least 25% of the report is based on torture testimonies they will probably stop citing it. Is it possible the CIA will dust down Operation Aerodynamic to see if it can updated, I wont rule it out. Today Yevgeny Prigozhinto and his merry men, apart from being pissed off with Putin, are hired hands, criminals who will sell their souls to the highest bidder...And the CIA will look to exploit their weakness...
Frankie --I have called you out before for using disreputable and discredited weblinks as your primary sources. That is not fact checking but incorporating misleading or outright lies into your arguments.
Sometimes I use Alex Jones and David Icke as my primary source just to get a reaction. But lets be clear I always have several MSM sources saying the same thing as a back up. Barry used to make the same arguments and mistakes that you are making today with me.
Brandon....
I read Hunter Biden's memoirs.....
Read his emails and documents on his laptop . Its as fcuked up as the wikileaks Clinton/Podesta email dump in the run up to the 2016 US elections. I wrote about the email dump on TPQ in a piece called Fuck you John Podesta and at the time I was told its all fake news. Today no one doubts how Podesta covered up the Acorn Scandal, how the Clintons covered up for Laura Silsby trafficking kids from Haiti....Epstein's and Jean Luc Bruels elite trafficking. ....the list is endless
Read what Ashley Biden (Creepy Joe's daughter) says in her personal diary. She writes in her own hand writing about having sexually inappropriate showers with her daddy and having relationships with family members that border on incest (Christy the FBI have confirmed the diary is real) The Biden crime family are more dysfunctional than the Kennedy's
@ Frankie
ReplyDeleteI had a quick look at that diary and then Googled it. I think it's appalling that someone had their rehab diary stolen and made public. That's a complete and total violation, and I've zero interest in further prying. Not to dispute what you've said, I just refuse to be party to having that level of information about someone without their consent. I think it's nauseating.
People in the madness of addiction, and the euphoria of recovery, say and do things that seem insane to others.
I wasn't interesting in the Clinton Email debacle, and feel similarly about Hunter's laptop. I've a longstanding interest in addiction and recovery though, and that's about the only interest I have in the Bidens. The minutiae of Trump likewise doesn't really interest me.
I will say though that I have yet to meet a family that isn't dysfunctional. There are of course levels of dysfunction. Extreme dysfunction, trauma, and addiction are all interlinked, and I suppose at one stage it's hard to find which is the "Patient Zero" issue.
Brandon, Frankie. I think it also appalling that you, Frankie, would use a newspaper article sourced from a stolen addiction diary to unjustly accuse the Bidens of being a crime family; more a multiple bereavement family. Also where did you source or reference Ashley Biden's personal diary from? Can you cite the FBI's confirmation of it? I am not aware of any legal action that has resulted from it so I would not make any accusations until guilt has been established.
ReplyDeleteBut you never do pay any attention to truth and accuracy. You cite again the criminally leaked Podesta emails and their debunked Pizzagate conspiracist lies. But your accusations of Hillary Clinton being involved in a sex trafficking leads me another warped conspiracy theory you may believe. You frequently state that there is an elite global paedophile ring active. Now child abuse is endemic at many levels of society and we all know of the establishment cover ups from Kincora to Savile to Dutroux. But the spectre of an amorphous, shape shifting global paedophile ring sounds rather like that of Q-Anon fantasy promulgated by MAGA extremists such as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor-Greene which puts Hillary Clinton at the epicentre of it. Now I could be wrong and I apologise if I am but your use of Breitbart as a source for the Podesta rubbish does fit into the pattern that Christy has called you out on - namely your citation of far right MAGA Trumpian propaganda material. The very fact that you admit to using Alex Jones and David Icke as sources gives the game away. You may say that you use MSM sources to back your claims but you twist the reportage into grotesque contortions of the truth.
You may object to being given political labels but your support for Brexit, Marine le Pen, climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers, the way that the Donald tickles you; your hatred of the Clintons and Bidens and your unfounded allegation that "Rambo" aka President Zelenskyy has made $1.5bn from his country's tribulations adds up to a libertarian right-wing world view. Factor in your peddling of 9/11 conspiracist narratives ( it was Al-Qaida who visited such terrible destruction on New York and Washington on that terrible day and nobody else and anyone who says otherwise can fuck like Holocaust deniers) and your frequent invocation of the power of "Zionist" bankers then a more sinister dimension to your world view emerges. Part of me wonders why I am engaging with such deranged views of the world but the part of me that believes in the upholding of truth in a post-truth world of populist, pseudo-democratic grifters like Trump, Putin, Orban, Johnson, Netanyahu etc.
Brandon,
ReplyDeleteThe first link I asked you to look at was Hunter Bidens emails and how he was the bag man for the big guy and how both skimmed millions from Ukraine. And yet everyday creepy Joe wants you to believe he is on Ukraine's side and is honest. Ashley's diary wasn't stolen but was found after she lost/misplaced it. What the diary tells me (should tell everyone) is exactly what direction creepy Joe's moral compass points....
The Clinton/Podesta email dump is as bad. They both deleted 1,000's of emails covering up how they made millions for themselves and their friends skimming Ukrainian money,selling uranium to Russia...and covered up the bombing by NATO in Libya.....
NATO....the main reason L’affaire Dutroux was closed down and white washed is because it went right to NATO's front door.....
Frankie
ReplyDeleteHow is highlighting that you are using looney bins as primary sources putting a spin on your posting?? --the misleading CNN link is to a Republican National Committe twitter account --the RNC is a election denier and conspiracy theory.
The Hunter Biden has been put to rest by a Trump appointed Special Counsel --who concluded on a couplke of misdeanours.
The whole Hunter Biden crap was supposed to counter Trump's extortion of Ukraine by withholding crucial funding that the US senate voted on in both Ukraines and US security interests. So it didnt pan out but MAGA-ist like you are desperately conituing to try to flog a dead horse.
That Trump and MAGA are a threat to US national security is their alignment with autocrats and dictators around the world -plus the stealing and possession of US national secrets. That is on top of their opposition to democratic elections -they feel only their views and largely white privilege count.
As for any dizzy spells your postings might cause me -I don't take you seriously or give much weight to anything you have to say, so knock yourself out trying.
Christy/Barry,.....
ReplyDeletethe misleading CNN link is to a Republican National Committe twitter account
I know what twitter account I linked... All I said was..........the conspiracy theorists and whacknuts you refer to...do you mean CNN who confirm the contents,.. And you started giving me the Alf Garnett complaining about the source and not the message. if you look at the video (once again) you'll see a video clip from CNN admitting the laptop is Hunter Bidens.
You then repeated yourself using the same line about the source of the feed. I asked..,....."do you mean CNN . Someone open the twitter feed and tell Christy that the video in the feed is from CNN".......I then said......And Christy while someone is checking my FFC why don't you open this CNN link and read for yourself what they report.........The part of the CNN piece in purple says........."The allegations – made in letters to the Delaware attorney general, the Justice Department’s National Security Division and the IRS – mark the first time President Joe Biden’s son and his legal team have publicly acknowledged that it was his personal data purported to be found on a laptop left at the Delaware repair shop........
That reads to me what I have been saying for months on TPQ (Its Hunters lappy). Tell the Quill again Christy why you don't believe it is Hunters
(Barry why don't you get in contact with Christy and both of you can conspire together and come up with a theory why it still ins't Hunters. And both of you can even blame it on a Trumpian-Russian bot. Now this is what CNN reported on Trumps Russian bots...
"US officials did not have any evidence of collusion between Trump campaign and Russia before probe-----Indeed, based on the evidence gathered in the multiple exhaustive and costly federal investigations of these matters, including the instant investigation, neither U.S. law enforcement nor the Intelligence Community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. (Crossfire Hurricane was the codename for the FBI’s Trump-Russia probe before special counsel Robert Mueller took over.)...
Maybe you both can blame the Chinese. There is no denying that Democratic Politicians got honey trapped by a Chinese Spy’s Seductive Influence ........" During the course of a three year period, Fang is known to have engaged in sexual relations with two mayors from Midwestern cities. FBI electronic surveillance recorded two incidents of sexual interactions between Fang and the elected officials........." Maybe as CNN reported on Shady Hunters Chinese connections.............. "President Joe Biden on Wednesday emphatically denied that he was involved or present when his son Hunter Biden is alleged to have texted a Chinese business partner in 2017, claiming that he was sitting with his father."...)
Can both of you stop repeating urban legends and stop telling myths. Otherwise I will give it an FFC. Why both of you wont take my advice that I learnt long before I discovered The Blanket ----open a browser and do your own research .......
(TBC)
Frankie
ReplyDeleteAll I hear from you is wah wah wah, wah wah wah...
.TPQ supports Britain’s war against Russia arguing that Ireland’s “eternal enemy” is today a lesser imperialist power. In 2016 TPQ argued that Ireland’s “eternal enemy” was a lesser imperialist power to the EU!!
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