Caoimhin O’Muraile ☭ Italy recently voted in a supporter of fascist Benito Mussolini as their new Prime Minister. Giorgia Meloni was elected, winning 119 seats, and she immediately began stamping her footprint across Italian society.An admirer of the former fascist dictator and supporter of Vladimir Putin’s policies towards the Ukraine, she has introduced the first of what can only be described as draconian laws. The new law forbids “unlicenced raves” a crime (Irish Daily Mirror 2.11. 2022). The new law in Italy of “Invasion for Dangerous Gatherings” of more than fifty people will attract a jail sentence of up to six years and already numerous gatherings or raves have been dispersed by the police.
Where does it stop? What about football games which attract huge crowds of thousands, will they be made illegal, or attending such games unless fans come from the ruling elite? With fascism you can never tell but Meloni has made her hard-line policies of so-called law and order known to the population. Will she tolerate opposition parties? Are there enough checks and balances to stop her, like Britain under Thatcher which, for all the British parliamentary systems faults had sufficient checks and balances to stop Thatcher going as far as she wanted to? Plus, and more to the point, the British capitalist class did not yet need full fascism. Thatcher would have been the perfect ticket had the system needed such an extreme. A friend and admirer of Chilean dictator, Augusto Pinochet who she even helped save from justice in a Spanish court - had fascism in Britain been needed - would have served that purpose.
Will Meloni, like her idol Mussolini, make Italy a one-party state? Does the country have enough checks and balances to prevent a repeat of the Mussolini years? Italian liberal democracy is notoriously weak and unstable which are the perfect conditions for the likes of Giorgia Meloni and her policies, or will the President be strong enough to curtail the fanatic? Perhaps the more pertinent question and even more important and relevant is: does Italian capitalism need fascism? If the answer to this question is yes then checks and balances or none, Meloni will be given a free rein. Time will tell, but early signs do not look great. She is anti-immigrant which suggests a certain amount of racism will raise its head at official level in Italy and no longer perhaps be a minority of street thugs. In fact, these street fighters will no longer be of much use to the new government, they may have outlived their usefulness and be thrown into jail. All the same anti-fascists across Europe must watch events in Italy closely as well as their own countries far-right activities, that includes here in Ireland.
In France Marine Le Pen is the leader of the far-right Front National, FN, the party founded by her father Jean Marie Le Pen in 1972. Marine Le Pen is a member of the French National Assembly and has, over the years, gradually increased her support. In 2012 she was placed third in the French Presidential elections but by 2022 she pushed the incumbent, Emmanuel Macron very close, coming second. Many believe she is the French President in waiting. The FN has grown using its anti-immigrant policies over the years from being a fringe party which was no threat to become a major force in French politics. Eventually they may be the governing party and how far they would be allowed to go would - as in Britain much earlier, and recently Italy - depend on firstly the checks and balances and secondly and more importantly the needs of the French capitalist class. In the 2022 Presidential election Le Pen received 13, 288, 686 votes amounting to just over 41% of the vote. Very close, in fact from an anti-fascist view point almost too close. Thankfully in France there is a large anti-fascist opposition led chiefly, though not exclusively, by the trade union CGT.
As the memories of the atrocities committed by fascism and particularly the Nazi variant begin to fade so too does the attitudes of people. Most of the men and women who fought on the victorious allies side, the USSR, USA, Britain, Canadian, Free French, Free Poles, and Free Czechs to name a few are now dead or very old people. All we have now to remind us of the horrors of fascism are documentaries, and not very good ones at that, about the Second World War. Some historians even, reading between the lines, appear sympathetic towards fascism. They definitely overplay the achievements of fascism, for example in Germany they give Hitler credit for the Autobahns which is untrue. These great roads were in fact the idea of the last democratic Weimar Republic Government and were highjacked by the Nazis claiming them as their own. Could this forgetfulness of the Second World War be a reason the far-right, a cock-stride away from the fascist right, are on the move again? One slight nudge and these parties will show their true colours which are fascist. In Italy Meloni and her openly sympathetic to fascism party have already shown their credentials and are already bringing in draconian laws restricting civil liberties.
In Britain the fascist party, Britain First, a party respected by former US president Donald Trump is waiting in the distance. The organisation's leader is the former British National Party councillor, Paul Golding. Jada Fransen is the former deputy leader, who was once charged with assault on a Muslim woman for no other reason than she was a Muslim. Britain First campaigns primarily against the “Islamisation” and multiculturalism of Britain. It advocates the preservation of traditional British culture, in much the same way as Hitler promoted German culture before his election minority victory in 1933.
Britain First registered with the Electoral Commission in January 2014, and in February 2017 was statutorily deregulated as a political party by the same Electoral Commission, after it failed to renew its registration in time. Notable to see this deregulation of the party had nothing to do with its pro-Nazi ideology! Britain First appeal to the British (primarily English) people primarily, claiming to be putting their interests first. Obviously, they do not consider a Muslim born and bred in Coventry or a black person from Manchester as British people! What they really mean is they will put white Britain first at the expense of all minority groups, including the Irish. The party have links to the loyalist paramilitary organisations in the six-counties and regularly visit that part of Ireland.
It is very rare I agree with the British military but on the occasion of the Second World War there is no room for doubt. With the enormous help and sacrifices of the Soviet Union, the industrial might of the USA and the Canadian troops who suffered huge losses in France along with other countries' soldiers, fascism was defeated. Now, it appears, it is raising its ugly head again. For the moment it is true, they are a dot on the horizon, so too was Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Pinochet but they came to power and were thankfully removed from that same power, with the exception of Franco who died of natural causes.
Today we must be on our guard, particularly as capitalism lumbers from one crisis to another the ground once again becomes fertile for such organisations! Capitalism in crisis will use fascism to defend itself, in fact of all the isms the only one they cannot live with is socialism, the antithesis of capitalism and, its extreme, fascism.
Caoimhin .....Is Fascism Being Resurrected?..........ReplyDelete
You left out Canada, you left out loads of other fascist countries TBH, which is basically any country you care to mention. The whole Covid scam was fascism in its purest form. And most people complied.............
Capitalism in crisis will use fascism to defend itself, in fact of all the isms the only one they cannot live with is socialism, the antithesis of capitalism and, its extreme, fascism.
Caoimhin have you thrown into the mix a world without money
Frankie, an article of faith of some of the far right populist (I prefer this term to "Fascist") movements is Covid-19 denialism which led to the deaths of hundreds of deaths in, for example, in the USA under Trump and Bolisanario's Brazil. Ireland's own petit Moreni/Le Pen, Gemma Doherty, also peddles Covid 19 lies. Most other liberal democracies responded to the pandemic by implementing evidence based lockdowns which admittedly and necessarily entailed civil liberty restrictions. These were upheld by legislatures and then discontinued as the the effects of the virus lessened. Also fascist countries are not in the habit of holding free and fair elections.Delete
And regarding "a world without money" that experiment along with few others was tried in Cambodia under Pol Pot from 1975 to 1979 .....
Me thinks you will find the all lauded, by the truly frightened and gullible, lockdown measures, killed lots of people. P.s the excess deaths that are occurring now(more than than the height of the 'pandemic' btw) are deliberately ignored by those of whom pushed the fear upon the public two yrs ago. I don't know anyone that regrets NOT getting the vaccine experiment; I know plenty that do regret getting it........a right few of them dead now. If that makes me a fascist then so be it....heil Matt Le Tissier!Delete
No mention of WHY the people voted for her in Italy? Or why the Right is gaining traction in France? Pointing the finger and saying they're the 'baddies' misses the point, and if capitalism is the root cause then you must be in favour of abolishing the EU, for that is the capitalists wet dream of cheap non-unionised labour across borders. Uppa Irexit!ReplyDelete
The rising votes for far right populists in France, Italy, Sweden, Denmark and in the Brexit referendum and for Trump represent a mixture of rejection of globalised capitalism, a cry for the restoration of status quo ante in opposition to immigration and multiculturalism and a 'plague on all politicians. Unlike Nazism and Fascism, the modern far right does not consist of mass totalitarian parties and is not as explicitly racist and antisemitic as the former (but the dogwhistles in the form of "globalism" and "invasion" are there if one cares to look).Delete
The lodestar for the populist far right is Putin with his hatred of LGTBQ and gender radical politics; Western "decadence" and the institutions of rule based international order.
It is too reductionist to attribute the rise of the populist far right to capitalism's attempt to save itself as capitalism is not just one amorphous, functioning entity. But yes the ruling kleptocracy in Russia and the backing for Brexit and Trump from plutocrats such as the Koch Brothers and the Murdoch gives the lie to any argument that these movements are genuinely elitist and anti-establishment.
Barry..........If a state or states uses totalitarian dystopian fear tactics to control a substantial number of people, using behavioural psychology and mind control to manipulate and control people, they'd be called a fascist state.ReplyDelete
Most other liberal democracies responded to the pandemic by implementing evidence based lockdowns which admittedly and necessarily entailed civil liberty restrictions.
The UK, most call it a liberal democracy, I think it is a fascist state. Barry read this, it will take you no more than a minute to skim/read...
Quillers here are some quotes from the piece called UK scientists admit to using ‘ethically questionable’ fear tactics in COVID response...
The Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behavior, or SPI-B for short, is a sub-committee of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) that advised SAGE on the role of psychology in nudging the British public into complying with government lockdown
in a newly released book which outlines the group’s use of “dystopian” fear tactics to influence public behavior following the outbreak of COVID-19.
On the back of SPI-B advice, SAGE issued guidance to the U.K. government, as they locked down the country last March, advising that they would need to couple their actions with a targeted fear campaign to ramp up the “perceived level of personal threat”
Journalist and author Laura Dodsworth, in her latest publication A State of Fear, documents “how the U.K. government weaponised fear during the COVID-19 pandemic.” The book features the testimony of
“The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable,” the source continued. “It’s been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared. The way we have used fear is dystopian.”
SPI-B psychologist Gavin Morgan told Dodsworth that “using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. It’s not an ethical stance for any modern government.” Morgan related that, in spite of his normally optimistic outlook on life, seeing the government implement fear tactics to control the population “has given me a more pessimistic view of people.”
Reads to me Quillers as if the UK gov quiet happily used fascism to sell the bat flu scam. They didn't call it fascism but they used the very same MO as every other fascist has used to enforce their will.....
But it was not a "bird flu scam". It was a genuine pandemic. The measures taken by governments are open to legitimate critique and those taken by the Chinese Communist Party to achieve Zero Covid are oppressive and counter-productive. It was fascistic type regimes such as Trump's and Bolinasario and Levchenko with their science denying approaches to the pandemic which caused the greatest amount of deaths.Delete
Mick O, could it be that these excess deaths are directly or indirectly attributable to Covid?ReplyDelete
It appears to me many people do not know the difference between right wing politics and fascist right dictatorships.Margaret Thatcher held fascist views on a personnal level but her government, rght wing as it was, were not fascist. If they had been no oppossition parties would have existed.ReplyDelete
Meloni holds strong fascist views, on her own addmission she admires Mussolini as Thatcher admired Pinochet. The question is, are there sufficient checks and balances in Italy to prevent her going as far as she may wish? Hitler played on the crisis German capitalism was in and the Treaty of Verssailes for this crisis. He scapegoated Jewish people for the countrys problems. Mussollini was bitter and used what he perceived Italys lack of gains in WW1 despite being on the winning side.
As for governments using COVID to intruduce fascist measures once again a lack of knowledge about what fascism is. Most governments in defence of capitalism will use "para fascist" measures at some point, but this is not full blown fascism. Thatcher used "para fascist" tactics during her time, not least in 1984/85. She would have gone all the way if she could, be under no illussions about that. Her attitude towards the republican hunger strikers in 1981 was akin to fascism, but the full tory programme, again right wing, was not fascist. It is important to know the difference.
I think that distinction is important to make.ReplyDelete
At the same time I don't follow the line of reasoning that Thatcher's policy towards the hunger strikers was fascist. It was callous and brutal but to claim it was fascist allows Liberal democratic governments off the hook. I don't see anything intrinsically fascist about the Thatcher policy on the hunger strike. She was supported on it by Labour. Liberal democracy used draconian measures against republican activists in the North.
I think a stronger case can be made regarding the so called socialist government in Spain under Felipe González. A 1984 CIA document reported that “González agrees with the formation of a group of mercenaries, controlled by the Army, to combat terrorism outside the law.”
These were upheld by legislatures and then discontinued as the the effects of the virus lessened.
Everything is still on the books and can be dusted off and used again....
Also fascist countries are not in the habit of holding free and fair elections.
The current unelected head of state for the UK, Canada, a south Pacific island to name three countries is who? He is a parasite who counted Jimmy Saville as a close friend. His younger brother was a close friend with Jeffery Epstein. Their favourite uncle was involved in raping young boys at Kincora.....The list is endless. That aside............How democratically elected was the current UK PM elected into office?
Barry several months ago the west decided to block every Russian/Putin related bank account they could and you and lots of others gave it your vote. At the same time me and a boy named Sue were asking each other "Isn't what Trudeau doing fascist.....?
But it was not a "bird flu scam". It was a genuine pandemic.
I know it wasn't a bird flu scam, that happen a few years before the current bat flu scam and it wasn't a genuine pandemic. It was a social experiment, a psy-op. In the piece I asked you read, British Gov scientists admitted i.....“The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable,” the source continued. “It’s been like a weird experiment.
The measures taken by governments are open to legitimate critique
That is not true. The minute anyone starts to expose the bat flu scam and how the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behavior, or SPI-B used " fascist totalitarian dystopian fear tactics to control, manipulate a substantial number of people, using behavioural psychology and mind control"...They get called a conspiracy theorists who promote fake news and get threatened with fines, jail...and censored (not on TPQ) . From reclaim the net .............An influential United Kingdom (UK) based social purpose organization that was blamed for the UK government’s use of “grossly unethical tactics to scare public into Covid compliance” is recommending that banks use the “wealth of data that they hold” to provide “carbon feedback” on transactions and introduce social credit-style rewards and incentives to encourage “sustainable behaviours.”...
In a nutshell the same group of Gov. advisors who used fear tactics to enforce bat flu are also after your data so they can manipulate you in every way possible..
and those taken by the Chinese Communist Party to achieve Zero Covid are oppressive and counter-productive.ReplyDelete
And how did modern governments like India, UK, Italy, France, Pakistan, Chilie, Tunisia, Spain, Malaysia, Australia, Brazil and New Zealand deal and enforce their bat flu scams? Do you really think they were less 'oppressive and counter-productive' than the CCP?
The Guardian posted on youtube on the 25 Mar 2020 (its 3min 8sec ) The description says this about the video....A third of the world’s population is under lockdown as countries tighten measures to stop the spread of Covid-19. We take a look at some of the strategies – from drones to armed forces, exercises to fines – that governments are using to police their citizens ....
It was fascistic type regimes such as Trump's and Bolinasario and Levchenko with their science denying approaches to the pandemic which caused the greatest amount of deaths.....
Stop with the fake news, made up facts and the propaganda Barry. I've linked UK Gov behavioural scientists saying that the science they used was basically lies, bullshit and smacked of totalaranism........SPI-B psychologist Gavin Morgan told Dodsworth that “using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. It’s not an ethical stance for any modern government.....
And regarding "a world without money" that experiment along with few others was tried in Cambodia under Pol Pot from 1975 to 1979 .....
What Jacque Fresco talked about in 'a world without money' has sweet fcuk all to do with what Pol Pot got up to. They are both worlds apart. And a few years ago on this blog you said you liked what Jacque Fresco said..
Mick O, could it be that these excess deaths are directly or indirectly attributable to Covid?ReplyDelete
Well considering almost every death during the 'pandemic' was attributed to covid despite many families blaming underlying conditions for their loved ones demise it's ironic now that 'sudden unknown adult deaths' can be blamed on anything bar the magical 'vaccine' I.e that needle is sacred and mustn't be questioned. I know plenty of people who are adamant the jab has wrecked them but their vaccine salesmen doctors dismiss their notion due to medical reasons/expertise and not due to conflicts of interests or saving their own divine status and arses! On the flip side of that I know plenty of folk who refused the jab despite enormous pressure to succumb, and they havnt had a problem.
P.s I feel sorry for the young people who were directed to take the jab not because the virus could harm them but to rather to stop transmission I.e protect the vulnerable..........turns out that was a lie which was admitted to by a vaccine manufacturer recently.
Jesus frankie, have you not had a dose of the vid yet? It most definitely is a pandemic. Killed someone I knew, wrecked others and some were lucky like me when all I got was dizzy spells for a couple of days. Not to mention the sheer havoc it wrought in the hospitals here.ReplyDelete
It appears to me many people do not know the difference between right wing politics and fascist right dictatorships.
it appears to me that most refuse to accept that we are controlled by a global dictatorship. Watch this video from 27mins 50 secs until 32mins 10secs and listen to how the global dictatorship works. What James Corbett talks about Quillers is 'The Big Club' George Carlin told us that we will never be part of. And 'The Big Club' will use fascism in its purest from to enforce their fascist world view. at any stage of the game.
Margaret Thatcher held fascist views on a personal level but her government, right wing as it was, were not fascist.
Tell that to the miners....It doesn't matter if the Gov of the day is, left wing, right wing or somewhere in the centre, they will do the bidding of the global dictatorship and use force if necessary to enforce it. The west will let you watch Netflix on any given weekday and allow to you stream a football match on the weekend but if you don't comply to their will and agenda then expect to be fined, jailed....silenced. The Rise of Global Fascism and the End of the World as We Know I, worth a skim.
Meloni holds strong fascist views, on her own admission she admires Mussolini as Thatcher admired Pinochet.
I will throw into the mix what Justin Trudeau thinks about dictatorships...Quillers listen to the 1st min or 2, you couldn't make it up if you tried.
frankie, have you not had a dose of the vid yet?
I have really no idea what you mean by 'have I not had a dose of the vid'.....
It most definitely is a pandemic.
Thats if you believe the propaganda that NSW Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant spouts. What Dr Kerry Chant doesn't talk about is ...... NSW Government used 'behavioural insights unit' to guide people's behaviour during Covid (Same MO and fear tactics the UK used)
The unit also advised one possible way of increasing mask usage among young people was by applying to their egos. It suggested usage would increase by 10 per cent on public transport if the state government followed the message: 'Appealing to ego: Real heroes wear masks'.
In laymans terms Quillers, to be a good model citizen, you must dehumanize yourself by gimping up in a mask, stand in an orderly line with your sleeve rolled up and take part in a trial for an untested vaccination and then go home and put yourself under house arrest.
Killed someone I knew, .
The person who died. How old were they, did they have any underlying health issues, were they vaccinated, did they take the vaccine, were they over weight and smoked and drank to excess.....? How did they find out they had bat flu, both the BLF and PCR tests aren't fit for purpose.
wrecked others and some were lucky like me when all I got was dizzy spells for a couple of days,
So a few Aussies had too much kangaroo juice during lockdown on a weekend and woke up hung over on a Monday while you and a few others had nothing more than a common cold but because you all behaved like good model citizens and sucked up the propaganda and into the psy-op, you all believed you had 'mild' bat flu....
Not to mention the sheer havoc it wrought in the hospitals here.
Australian nurse breaks silence on Covid-19 vaccines and being censored part 1....... part 2.....After listening to her it is easy to understand why and who brought 'the sheer havoc it wrought in the hospitals ; to the Australian health system.........
Your commitment to weed induced paranoid conspiracy theories are borderline endearing Frankie, but it's not going to wash with me. I've seen people die from it.Delete
Don't need to make it up, in that old clip he's specifically talking about the speed at which a dictatorship can get environmental action taken. I know very little about Trudeau but come on frankie, quote mining is easily spotted.ReplyDelete
FFS readers yas are intelligent people ya can watch whatever ya want or read whatever ya want if ya do either does that mean it's the truth the earth is over populated there is soon going to be not enough to go around so who going to pay the price well it never going to be billionaires or New World Order.So like the fields of the Somme, common folk world wild are cannon fodder an experiment that's happening to each of us! What is the billionaires biggest worry !How do they trust there there bodyguard.So Fascism Communism Nationalism loyalism Racism it's all balls we all pawnsReplyDelete
Your commitment to weed induced paranoid conspiracy theories are borderline endearing
I take on board most people are all happy in their own bubbles, watching netflix on any given week day then stream a football match at the weekend. I understand that 100%. I asked Caoimhin to have a skim at a piece called 'The Rise of Global Fascism' (scroll back for the link), there is a line used by a Polish-American poet called Czeslaw Milosz, never heard of him before but it is a great line......... " As long as the sun and the moon are above, as long as the bumblebee visits a rose, as long as rosy infants are born, no one believes it is happening now….."
Now let's back up a little, Caoimhin asked ......."Is Fascism Being Resurrected? "...... and then talked about the usual suspects, Thatcher, Meloni, Pinochet, Mussolini and Adolf. But no mention of what is happening in Palestine. Not even a brief history of how fascism came to be the buzz word it is today. He could have thrown into the mix how Hitler borrowed not only money but his ideas from the CFR and if he had paid back the Zionist oil banks then Germany would had won the war in Europe. Historians don't like uncomfortable truths such as this or this or even this. If you compare what the global dictatorship want and what Hitler wanted, they are the same...it is a fascist eugenicists program.
I know very little about Trudeau but come on frankie, quote mining is easily spotted.
If you read up on Justin you'll find he is a fascist who craves control, scroll back to a link I asked Barry to look at called "Ins't what Trudeau doing fascist" or listen to a dissenting Canadian journalist talk about Freedom Convoy & Trudeau’s Power Grab or an interview he gave to Whitney Webb. Why Justin likes the China model....? China is their blue print. Open a brower and read how Mao was a Yale man who was funded by the Rothschild and Rockafella families, or look in to what Kissinger is up to in China , he is good friend to China.
, but it's not going to wash with me. I've seen people die from it.
Your maths don't add up..... First you said "Killed someone I knew" and now you tell me "I've seen people die from it"....Which was it, one person or several people? And again who ever you think you saw die from bat flu, were they OAP's, over weight, underlying health conditions, a bad diet, smoked and drank too much........? And again whats the deal with "some were lucky like me when all I got was dizzy spells for a couple of days......" Did you become dizzy before you had the vaccine, after or any chance it was because you dehumanized yourself and gimped up and starve your brain of oxygen? This is what a top European neurologist has to say about face masks......Oxygen Deprivation Causes Permanent Neurological Damage..........worth a read.
the earth is over populated there is soon going to be not enough to go around so who going to pay the price well it never going to be billionaires or New World Order.
That is bullshit. This rock is nowhere close to being over populated anymore than it is running low on resources to feed, heat and clothe everyone. Have you ever thought about taking money from the equation?
So like the fields of the Somme, common folk world wild are cannon fodder an experiment that's happening to each of us! What is the billionaires biggest worry !How do they trust their bodyguards
I don't care about billionaires body guards. And you are only part of their experiment if you allow yourself to be. Did you respect the lock down rules, gimp up and impose house arrest on yourself? I didn't. I was posting on TPQ about breaking every rule I was told to abide by....
So Fascism Communism Nationalism loyalism Racism it's all balls we all pawns
Use your free will so you don't become a pawn. It is that simple.