Showing posts with label Ciara Kelly. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ciara Kelly. Show all posts
Anthony McIntyre sees an anti-intellectual trend at play in the attempt to exclude alternative voices from the public discourse around measures to combat Covid-19. 

'My duty is to speak out,
 I do not want to be an accomplice' - Emile Zola

Last week, Dr Ciara Kelly challenged the Dublin government's insistence on the imposition of level 5 restrictions for a six week period as a necessary measure to curb the spread of Covid 19. While far from convinced that she has called it right, I welcomed her contribution to a discourse which seemed to be increasingly timid in the face of a regime of hush.  

A public broadcaster, Kelly, up until August, had for three years hosted Newstalk Lunchtime Live but has since taken over the Newstalk Breakfast slot from which she aired her critical views. It allowed her to reach a wide audience which is probably what infuriated some of her detractors who seemed eager to take their masks off for the purpose of spitting venom her way. 

While much of the critical commentary was robust it remained civil. At the same time there was no shortage of suggestions that Kelly, who tested positive for the virus in March, was some rabid right winger in the pay of big business, a Nazi fellow traveler, unfit to be a public broadcaster, a stooge of the ruling class, an unreconstructed Thatcherite prepared to sacrifice the vulnerable for the sake of preserving the capitalist economy, an advocate of 5000 people dying ... ad nauseum.

Much of this seemed pulled straight out of the jacksie, none of it grounded in plausible substance. Nowhere did she not advocate that citizens physically defy the government and break the law, cough and sneeze on everybody within reach or turn up with a tin hat at the next anti-masking protest waving a tricolour. Her thought crime amounted to saying: 

I think it is the fact that in 2021, 2022 and 2023 deaths will be higher as a consequence of our behaviour in 2020. No one will talk about that — We’ll lose lives from this as well. I’m not alone — There are loads of doctors who feel the exact same as we put we don’t hear them. All around the country today, there will be people in absolute despair at this news. I am very afraid that, on balance, we are getting it wrong.


‘It is about the fact that in January the cases will climb again and we will be back to square one. We will have gained nothing other than being able to party for Christmas.

While certainly a contentious opinion, that is about the worst that can be genuinely said about it. It was hardly the embryonic stage of a Mussolini-type march on Dublin.  

Kelly further alleged that the National Public Health Emergency Team was ‘flying in the face” of the World Health Organisation (WHO) by implementing more restrictions. In this she appears to be in step with WHO

We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus … the only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.

While, for now, at variance with Ciara Kelly on the usefulness of a lockdown, I firmly believe this is the type of discussion Irish society should be having, North and South. Dissenting doctors such as Ann McCloskey should not be on the receiving end of an email from the General Medical Council merely because she questioned the efficacy of masks. 

For some as yet inexplicable reason Ciara Kelly's twitter account is no longer live. It might be related to the impact previous abuse has had on her.

I've been accused of things that I'm not as if they are fact, and then people have told me to kill myself, told me that they wish I was dead, told me they don't know how I live with myself, how I sleep at night, that they hate me, they despise everything I stand for. People I don't know from Adam talk about me like they know me and it makes me feel sick. It makes me feel physically sick when I'm in that zone, but it is part and parcel of being a woman with a profile at the moment with the way the online world works and that's just the way it is.

Vicious. Perhaps those who seek to suffocate a diversity of opinion think society would be better off if what Professor Kathleen Lynch feared two decades ago was to become even more entrenched, a situation in which 'there has been a neutralisation of public discourse and debate. A language of sameness prevails'. 

To portray a competent dissenting voice as a Ciaronavirus that needs the vaccine of abuse and censorship to keep it suppressed is itself a malaise that is best treated by a good dose of "fuck off." As Eddie Holt wrote in 2001:

critical analysis and opposition even if unpopular in some circles, is the heart of democracy. When political representatives cannot or will not provide it, then the citizen must.

Which is what Ciara Kelly did. 

Sticking fingers in our own ears and wishing it would all go away is not going to resolve the fundamental differences of opinion that have arisen around how best to tackle the pandemic. Yet, it is better than sticking a gag in the mouths of those we would rather not hear.  Ciara Kelly, like the rest of us, should comply with the lockdown and accept the advice to wear a mask. She should not under any circumstance wear a muzzle. 

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Masks, Not Muzzles

From The Transcripts Anthony McIntyre reflects on Marian Finucane who died last week. 

Marian Finucane
On Thursday 2 January 2020, RTÉ announced that veteran broadcaster and presenter Marian Finucane died suddenly at her home. In this segment Ciara Kelly speaks to former IRA prisoner now author and historian, Anthony McIntyre, and gets his thoughts on Marian Finucane. 

Ciara: We are remembering Marian Finucane today on the programme and Anthony is on the line. Anthony, you yourself were interviewed, for almost an hour which is no mean feat, by Marian because you are a former member of the IRA, an historian and, of course, you were involved in the Boston College Tapes project. Tell me what your recollection is of Marian – you’re very welcome.

Anthony: Good Afternoon Ciara. I was hugely impressed by her as an interviewer. I knew that it would be a fairly robust interview, or at least anticipated that it would, and she … my interview with her came two days after the arrest of Gerry Adams.  Adams was arrested on a Thursday evening and she interviewed me on a Saturday morning, and I was amazed how she could maintain the interview for a whole hour, maintain the interest - and her command of the details. Now she had a very good research team but she was the consummate professional in how she managed it and focused on key questions – difficult questions. She was a serious public intellectual who made a major contribution to pubic understanding and I had been very, very impressed by her prior to that interview as a result of her interview back in 2008, 2007 with Nuala O’Faolain, when, shortly prior to Nuala dying … because on the back of that interview with Nuala I had wrote an obituary about her. But I was truly impressed and I think she’ll be a serious loss to broadcasting in this country.

Ciara: I agree with you and I remember listening at the time live to the interview with Nuala and we have to bear in mind that they were actually friends and she was interviewing her friend who was upset about dying and she did it with empathy and kindness and compassion but she also got Nuala to talk – she had those two incredible skills in tandem, Anthony. She had empathy but she had that kind of towering intellect. She had both.

Anthony: Well that’s true but I also think she managed to convey an empathy with the necessary detachment that’s required for that job. And I mean, I don’t know but I felt that her, she was able to overcome formalities in a way that other broadcasters maybe aren’t. Because she was very much at the coalface in terms of her own personal grief having lost her daughter at a very young age so when she was focusing on issues relating to people who had died or people who were dying she could be very, very fine tuned – tuned into exactly what those people might have been going through and in that sense I found that she was amazing. And sometimes, you know, she brought – I look at some of the public broadcasters North and South and they seem at times to want to inflame rather than inform. And Marian seemed to me to be the exact opposite. She relentlessly and incessantly informed people – and this is what I said earlier in this interview – that she undoubtedly enhanced public understanding.

Ciara: Did she get more out of you than you expected?

Anthony: Well I’m not sure that she got more out of me because I have to be an inveterate protector of secrets but she allowed me to explain the case and the reason behind the Boston College Tapes in a way that was often difficult to get out because at that time I was under serious pressure – a lot of serious criticism, a lot of public criticism. The Boston College Tapes were being excoriated in parts of the media and government circles because they seen it in terms of the peace process rather than any sort of academic value but she allowed us to make the case. I’m not saying she was convinced, she asked the difficult questions – but she certainly allowed people to get an argument out that other people just mightn’t have wanted to have heard but it was essential for the public record nonetheless.

Ciara: Yeah. She was brave, I would suggest, in that way. She was courageous. She did allow people to speak and irrespective of whether what they had to say was popular or not. She was fair to them I think.

Anthony: Well, I think that’s what made her such a important broadcaster and accentuates the loss and the vacuum that is going to be created by her passing ...

Ciara: Yeah, no. Absolutely, Absolutely,

Anthony: She was not somebody who wanted to play to the audience. She was very, very concerned with getting knowledge out into the public domain. And when we look back, everybody that does something worthwhile tends to stand on the shoulders of giants 

Ciara: Absolutely, absolutely. 

Anthony: ... and she was one of the giants, I think, of the broadcasting industry in Ireland and journalism in Ireland as well.

Ciara: No, you’re not wrong and I’m aware of it as somebody who’s probably standing on her shoulders – I’m absolutely aware of it. Anthony, thank you for that as well.


The Transcripts, Of Interest to the Irish Republican Community.

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Marian Finucane

Ciara Kelly is not inclined towards viewing Lisa Smith with sympathy.



I first heard of Isil five or six years ago. Islamist jihadists rampaged across Syria and Iraq, proclaiming a war of terror against the west and imposing Sharia law on those who lived within their caliphate. Often seen whooping and waving black flags from the backs of jeeps, they seemed almost cartoonish in their capacity for medieval levels of violence and barbarity as depicted in our news bulletins.

But I remember clearly the first time I became afraid and was sickened by them. It wasn't after any of the European terrorist attacks, such as Nice, where a truck mowed down civilians taking an evening stroll along the prom.

Or Paris, where young people enjoying a music gig were shot dead in cold blood; an iPhone video of a heavily pregnant woman, hanging from a second-storey window in fear for her life, still stays with me. 

Continue reading @ The Independent.

Why I Have Zero Sympathy For Lisa Smith