President Xi of China will chair the virtual BRICS summit later this week, three of its most influential members - China, India and South Africa abstained from voting on a UN resolution condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
In response to this the US government put out a statement warning China and other BRICS nations not to be on the wrong side of history over the Ukraine-Russia war.
The United States of America has been on the wrong side of history almost every year since it's foundation in 1776. There is hardly a conflict in the world in which the US have become embroiled, which hasn't made a bad situation worse. In truth the US political, military, and industrial complex have so much blood on their hands it should be renamed Murder Incorporated.
Since WW2 when they did play a positive role they have intervened in Cuba, Vietnam, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, Iran, Indonesia, Philippines, Lebanon, Palestine, Ukraine and more; they truly are a gang of piratical gangsters.
By the way given the above mentioned history it's not whataboutery to question the motives of the US government in the Ukraine, it's due diligence and common sense.
⏩ Mick Hall is a veteran Left Wing activist and trade unionist.
So China's proto-genocide of the Uighurs and Modi's state sponsored pogroms Muslims in India gets a free pass simply because of the crimes of the United States. Will the anti-US and "anti-imperialist" Left grow up and recognise 21st century imperialism of Putin and Xi vintage?
ReplyDeleteBRICS are not the best bunch to hold up as a moral mirror to the US. Add Brazil to the mix and it is a powerful authoritarian bloc made up of capitalist regimes even though the Chinese Capitalist Party calls itself the Chinese Communist Party.
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I think the word genocide is used these days far to easily yes China treats the Uighurs disgracefully but Genocide I'm not so sure. Admittedly I am not an expert on this conflict. I gave up long ago the leftwing tradition of having a position on every conflict in the world even if we knew fuck all about it.
As to Modi I think he would like to commit genocide on India's 240 million Muslims. Thankfully we are a long way from that . . . but it is one to watch as almost every time he opens his mouth he inflames the situation.
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I wasn't holding up the Briccs nations as a mirror to the USA simple pointing out the hypocrisy of Biden and co when he warned them of being on the wrong side of history in Ukraine.
The club of BRICS emerging economies formed in 2009 is home to more than 40% of the global population and accounts for nearly a quarter of the world’s gross domestic product.
ReplyDeleteThe first BRICS summit was in 2009 but the group was formed almost a decade earlier....BRICS was signed off on Nov 2001 by Jim O'Neil when he was CEO for the Zionist bank Goldman Sachs (in laymans terms GMS means a 'man with sacks of gold'). He is also credited for coining the terms N-11 and MINT ....
Back to building BRICS. A year-18months ago the west put sanctions on any Russian BRICS bank account they could and the world cheered on from the sidelines hoping Russia would fall and normal service restored. Truth be known there is no difference in real terms between the SWIFT, BRICS, N-11 or MINT banking systems. When everything is done and dusted they are all owned and controlled by the same Zionist oil bankers who conspired in 1910 and set up the foundations for the US Federal Reserved and A Century of enslavement. It is impossible to argue against what Paul Keely McIlroy said here "The only people winning are those that trade in weapons and oil" ....if anyone is interested in learning how the Zionist oil cartels took over the banks try to make time to watch documentary 1 and then documentary 2 (if they were on Netflix or Paramount+ they'd have 5 stars reviews<----they should be taught in history/economic classes).....
Back to building BRICS....it appears that Macron wants to build BRICS .Will the former US Assistant Secretary of State Karen Nuland tell Macron "Fcuk you" like when she said fcuk the EU ....
And I leve 'you' with this thought the Zionist banking cartel known as JP Morgan donates $1m, rolls out employee-matching scheme for Ukraine relief effort but the real truth they want to hide..... JPMorgan reaches $290 million settlement with Jeffrey Epstein victims ...."
Mick Hall........The club of BRICS emerging economies formed in 2009 is home to more than 40% of the global population and accounts for nearly a quarter of the world’s gross domestic product...........
ReplyDeleteBRICS was formed in 2001 when Jim O'Neill the then CEO of the ZIonist bank Goldman Sachs (a man with sacks of gold) signed off on the paper. The first sumit wasn't held in 2009 but BRICS was formed in 2001. O'Neil is also credited for coining the the terms N-11 and MINT....and other banking acronym's.
About a year-18mths ago the good and the great were all busy trying to stop Russia building BRICS by sanctioning every Russian owned bank account they could and they siezed billions of Russian assets. And under the radar at the same time the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was busy freezing the bank accounts and the assets of Canadians peacefully protesting because they refused to gimp up during bat flu...Several months before the great and the good in the west started blocking any bank Canadian or Russian accounts, The Donald trumped them ...."In June 2020, the United States imposed sanctions on Fatou Bensouda. Within weeks, Bensouda found that banks were closing her accounts and canceling her credit cards. Even her relatives had assets frozen as banks attempted to comply with rules set by the U.S. Treasury. What was Bensouda’s alleged transgression? Was she a terrorist? A human rights abuser? A corrupt foreign official? No, she was the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. And the sanctions were placed on her for doing the job she was appointed to do.....".....(Basically if you piss off the wrong people your bank account will be closed down and you wont be able to buy anything,<-----unless you have a few bitcoins tucked away on a hard drive for a rainy day).....
Who remembers when the EU confirming the ban on Russia Today , because they said RT is 'fake news' and propaganda. Yet today when anyone turns on any western news outlet for an update on the war in Ukraine they all source stories from the same Russian state owned news outlets that I am blocked from watching. Truth is I haven't stopped watching Russia Today.
Around the same time In Marcon's France he was busy enforcing sanctions on Russia....Today Napoleon is asking for an invite to the next BRICS meeting.
Alt Ukrainian War News...In July 2022 while the war was raging and innocent Ukrainians and Russians were being slaughtered in a war none of them wanted, Rambo and his good lady were busy doing photo shoots for Vogue a few month before signing off on making CBDC's legal tender. The technology he gave the thumbs up to isthe same technology that goverments used during the bat flu scam to track and trace . Recently (June 2023) at the WEF’s 14th Annual Meeting in Tianjing, China, Cornell University professor Eswar Prasad said......."“You could have a potentially […] darker world where the government decides that units of central bank money can be used to purchase some things, but not other things that it deems less desirable like say ammunition, or drugs, or pornography, or something of the sort“....." (As I said in the comment and else were on TPQ, once they go fully digital and you piss off the powers that be they can and will 'delete' you at the push off a button. I've shown how The Donald, Trudeau and the best of the west react when they got pissed off....). The zionist banking and oil cartel JP Morgan are busy with their PR machine telling the world that they support Ukraine by giving a few million US green backs to help. They have even said they will open their books and give Rambo as much credit he needs to rebuild once the fog of war clears.....
ReplyDeleteBut JP doesn't want to talk about why they had to reach a settlement with a group of women who were sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein, and will pay $290 million, ..... And JP's partener in crime Deutsche Bank paid Jeffrey Epstein's victims up to $5 million ............
Yawn, Frankie.
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ReplyDeleteYou have several poster girls (Fearless, Killary Clinton, Jacinda 'no balls' Ardern....),do yourself a favour and replace them with good women like Lucía Topolansky . I had no idea who Lucía Topolansky was until Anthony threw the name José 'Pepe' Mujica into my equation a few months ago. I have always believed behind every good man there is a good/better woman, so I checked out Pepe's good woman and I found out things such as.....Lucia Topolansky is Uruguay's first female vice president and how when she was putting herself through university she discorded corruption in the bank she worked in....
"the sacking of the Monty Financial House, a private banking institution, on Feb. 16, 1969.
Though it’s hard to establish exact details about the assault, here’s how Topolansky tells it: While working at the Monty to fund her way through architecture school, she discovered a black market financial operation going on behind the scenes. Outraged, she contacted first the banking regulators, then the press. When her concerns fell on deaf ears, she contacted some buddies in the burgeoning rebel group — the Tupamaros.
There followed an armed raid on the bank, in which the rebels stole incriminating papers and ledgers detailing the fiscal shenanigans going on behind closed doors. They also, Topolanksy sheepishly admits, stole a bunch of cash to help fund the cause. The evidence gathered in the raid helped lead to prosecutions of some high-level bankers. .......
While you might 'yawn' and pay no heed to banking corruption, others don't. I will expose what the banks are doing today, why they are doing it , who sits at what table.....And if sometimes Jeffery Epstein or similar names crop up, that's where the evidence takes me and I will always use MSM sources to name and shame them.
To understand the banking scam take 10mins from your life and watch Fractional Reserve Banking Explained . Then do your own research on what happened on Jekyll Island 1910 and how it lead directly to a century of enslavement. And if you have opened the links and watched them you will have a basic understanding of not only How Big Oil Conquered the World but also Why Big Oil Conquered the World........
The ultimate goal the Zionist banking & oil cartels want is total control of your life, what you buy, where you buy it......(scroll back and read what Eswar Prasad said.)... And if you happen to say something on social media or on a blog that isn't the official narrative, eat too many bacon sandwiches and not enough vegan sandwiches, when you go to buy anything ,you will get a message on you iphone 36, Samsung 74 or other saying... Thats why they want a cashless society.
If the expression Zionist banking cartels appeared on my Twitter feed, I would immediately push the Report button and relay the reasons why.
ReplyDeleteit would no more annoy me than Christian banking cartels appearing on my feed. I sometimes watch these reporting wars on Twitter and think those involved suffer from some obsession. If somebody posted 'gas the Jews' I'd certainly be up in arms about that but not something about banking cartels.
DeleteIt's just that alleged Je.wish control of financial institutions and the traditional association of Jews with usury are age old antisemitic tropes. Just like the welfare queen and black sexual aggression are racist tropes
ReplyDeleteI remember that brouhaha over Kevin Myers and thought what a load of wank. He was actually a strong supporter of both Israel and the Jews. The stifling effect on public discussion by these \we are so offended' responses should not be understated.
DeleteThe Kevin Myers brouhaha is quite different from the conspiracy theories that have always abounded about the power of the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, the Rothschilds, New World Order and the globalists. They posit the idea of a sinister cabal running the world; the identity this cabal was made flesh in the forgery of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. These ideas can have real life consequences pace Covid and climate change denialism, opposition to vaccines and in their weaponisation by far right and (to a lesser extent) far left extremists.
ReplyDeleteAs I understand it, Kevin Myers made a mildly stereotypical and facetious comment about Jews being good with money (I stand corrected) which is a far cry from the sinister discourse about international Jewish/Zionist control of banks and the media. It has to be challenged, not on any right to be offended basis, but because of its history and real life effects.
You are right about Myers - the pile on he experienced is born out of the type of umbrella you sometimes help reinforce.
DeleteThere are many people who believe a sinister cabal runs the world and that sinister cabals run countries. Most might think it deluded but it is there and there is no reason to be wanting it banned from public discourse. If we were told of Jewish banking cartels running the world I would be inclined to take a different view but a Zionist banking cartel can be made up of Evangelical Christians as well as others who support the Zionist colonial project which is still ongoing in the land grabbing which you are very much opposed to.
Is it not a form of racism to prioritise Jewish experience over all else by elevating the Holocaust to the greatest crime ever? It wasn't even the greatest crime of World War 2 - the War of Extermination in the East was. It claimed about 30 million victims including many Jewish folk butchered during the Holocaust.
I don't think Frankie ever understates the Holocaust but I feel you overstate it in your very genuine endeavour to ensure that Jews never again go through such horrors.
I put one of those Morning Thoughts out recently and it was from Sarah Silverman. The Twitter pile on of hatred was motivated by one thing - she was Jewish. So vile anti-Semitism is very much alive and well.
At the same time the very real life effects and history of elevating Jewish suffering over all else has been the exploitation of that suffering for perpetrating crimes against humanity on Palestinian people.
The horror of the Holocaust lis less in the ethnic identity of the victims but in the totality of its aims and execution - the extermination not just physically of a people merely on count of its existence but erasure of
ReplyDeleteAll evidence of that existence. That is why it is the greatest mass crime of all time and it is not promotion of Jewish exceptionalism to say so.
Barry - the Russians were regarded as Slavs - untermenschen/subhuman, the language used by the Nazis to describe them. They were to be wiped out and where not they were to be used as slaves wholly in the service of the Reich. The Holocaust evolved as a Nazi strategic policy rather than always been there. There was no guarantee that anti-Semitism per se would have led to the Holocaust - the Poles nor the Russians who were hugely anti-Semitic did not create their own Holocausts. To downplay the 30 million killed in a calculated war of extermination so that a much lesser group of 6 million deaths can be regarded as the worst crime ever seems to me illogical and very much amounts to what you term Jewish exceptionalism. The data plus the outcome, the intent, the application of Nazi strategy all points strongly to the greatest crime of WW2 being that inflicted on Russia.
DeleteAnthony - antisemitism and racialised Jew hatred and Judeo-Bolshevik conspiracy was front and centre of Nazi ideology. That is simple fact. You are correct about the evolution of the Holocaust; it proceeded incrementally and steadily from the Nuremberg race laws, the dispossession of Jewish businesses and assets, Kristallnacht, the c bullets" in the USSR and eventually the gas chambers. But the rantings of Hitler and the eliminationist policies of Himmler and Heydrich pointed in just one direction - the Wannsee Conference where it was decided in the the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem to kill every single member of the 11 million Jewish population of Europe. This was to be delivered through Operation Barbarossa and every other Nazi conquest. This is again is simple historical fact. Barbarossa was intimately tied up with the Holocaust.
ReplyDeleteThe country which proportionately suffered the worse losses in World War II was Poland which saw 6m dead or 20 % of the population which include 3m Jews.
Yes the Russian losses were horrendous; in particular the murder of 3.5 prisoners of war. But they include the millions of conscripts that Stalin through into the "meat grinder" and the thousands executed for desertion and cowardice. The victims of the Holocaust, the Gypsy and Roma genocide, the T-4 programme, the Pink genocide and that of the Jehovah Witnesses (as well as all other social and political deviants) were all non-combatants.
When Putin keeps reminding the world of the losses of the Great Patriotic War he says nothing of the 2m German women raped by the Red Army in Berlin and the deportation of the entire Crimean Tatar populations as suspect races.
I am really not trying to split hairs there. The memory of the Holocaust is a memory for humanity to preserve (particularly Europe) and a collective lesson for all of humanity as to where racialised hate and prejudice can lead to. It should not be weaponised by anti-vaxxers and other wingnuts nor by either side in the Israel-Palestine conflict. Its lesson should be the prevention of future genocides and Holocaust Memorial Day does also commemorate the Rwandan, Bosnian, Cambodian and Darfur genocides. Would that it could prevent the Rohingya and Uighur genocides.
The most efficient genocide in certainly 20th century was that of the entire 25,000 Vietnamese population in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The deaths of millions in the Indochinese conflicts do not diminish the singularity of that horror. The Shoah/Holocaust retains its unique character because of its singularity.
Barry - there is no dispute about what the Nazis inflicted on the Jews. Barbarossa was not waged to exterminate the Jews. The Jews were to be killed as part of it. It was a war of extermination against the untermenschen which were much greater in number than Jewish people but the primary objective was to grab land from which the German population could be sustained and to disable the one military force in East or West Europe that could effectively challenge the Nazis.
ReplyDeleteNor are we talking proportionately, because if we do then the Roma experience has to be factored in.
The vast bulk of those Stalin threw into the meat grinder were killed by the Nazis and their allies. The numbers killed by the NKVD were small by comparison. But even if we introduce that type of calculation we have to also introduce it for the Jewish Kapos that facilitated the genocide. I don't really think it takes our understanding anywhere.
Raped German women don't come under the rubric either. It was a horrendous war crime but does not alter the figures.
The memory of the Holocaust is one that humanity should preserve but not prioritise over greater crimes.
The Shoa singularity is not greater than that of the war of extermination in the East. It should not be fetishised or prioritised.
Anthony, Nazi Germany was the most evil force in the history of humanity and thank goodness the combined forces of Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt and De Gaulle defeated it (we do not get to choose our liberators!) and you are correct about the objectives of Barbarossa in the creation of Lebransaum at the expense of the Slav Untermensch. But here's the rub. The USSR, USA and the UK were powerful states with massive military resources (thank goodness again); by contrast the Jews, Gypsies and other groups selected for extermination were not nation-states with ready made supplies of combatants. Britain did not declare war on Nazi Germany to come to the aid of Europe's Jews and stopping the Holocaust was not a priority until the end of the war despite the widespread knowledge of it. That ending the Holocaust was not a primary aim is one of the reasons for my cynicism about Remembrance Day. The lesson and legacy of the Holocaust should not be Israel right or wrong but enforcement of the UN Genocide Convention of 1948 (The failure of mention the G word during the Rwandan genocide which you discussed recently and in relation to the Rohingya genocide constitutes major but not unexpected dereliction of duty on the part of the major powers)
ReplyDeleteThe legacies of Barbarossa are the Geneva Convention of treatment of POWs; the outlawing of deliberate starvation of civilian populations and protection of civilian populations from mass murder. Enforcement of such worked in the creation of Kurdish safe havens in the aftermath of the first Gulf war in 1991; it sadly failed at Srebinica in 1995 and in the Libyan intervention of 2011.
Reading Steve Pinker a few years back, he was making the point that for most of history it seems genocide was the norm rather than the exception. While numbers obviously count for something, I fail to see a lot of ethical distance between the Holodomor and the Holocaust.
DeleteIt is precisely because genocide and mass attacks on civilian populations were the norms in warfare that the Genocide and Geneva Conventions and prohibitions of use of chemical and biological weapons were promulgated after the Second World War when the full horrors of such humanitarian violations reached their apotheosis. Both the Holodomor and the Holocaust were eliminationist projects so little disagreement there.
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ReplyDeleteWhats your thoughts on how Zionist banking & oil cartels made millions (probably billions) of US green backs from gold extracted from the teeth of Jewish prisoners in Nazi death camps? And what are your thoughts about Zionist banks laundering drug money..... NatWest fined £265m after bin bags of cash laundered.... HSBC fined £64m for anti-money laundering failings.....Credit Suisse bank found guilty over money-laundering charges ..... Santander UK fined £108m over money laundering failings .................................?
If the expression Zionist banking cartels appeared on my Twitter feed, I would immediately push the Report button and relay the reasons why.
I have made this offer to you before. If you want, I can set up a twitter account and make sure that the expression 'Zionist banking cartels appears' on your feed just so you can report me to Elon 'free speech' Musk's thought police and have my account deleted by an algorithm and you get a dopamine hit. I can repeat the process until you get your daily amount/fill of dopamine.
Nice try Frankie but none of those banks have any connection to Zionism, Israel or any sort of Jewry. They are Swiss banks. So whither the Frankie Fact Check.
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