Social media is now quickly undermining centuries of state black propaganda and mind conditioning. The only role the BBC and CNN etc serve today is to enlighten us all as to how much we were being deceived.
If they carry out an onslaught on social media will they charge people with telling the truth or failing to accept their lies??
It's pure and utter slaughter. Netanyahu is not only arrogant but totally detached from the suffering of thousands of people. A poor wee baby dead, eighteen members of one family dead and yet, the slaughter goes on. Israel has put two fingers up at the world for years. They have had more UN resolutions than any other country, but as Netanyahu declared yesterday, ' we will continue until we get what we want.'
he doesn't care in the slightest. Just one in a long line of Israeli war criminals. Maybe it is part of the human condition that 'when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.' We so often become doers of what has been done to us.
One banner on display in yesterday's Dublin March proclaimed:
One Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every three days for the past 13 years
And yet the perpetrators would seek to tell the world that there is no Israeli state practice of infanticide. What unimaginable cruelty must lie behind a mind set that decides strategically to crush a people by the prolonged systemtic murder of its children.
Mackers, Ariel Sharon was the same arrogant and scathing of anyone trying to broker a solution. Now we can see that which we could never see before, people and children mutilated and it's sickening. The strikes from Palestine have been in response to daily oppression and increasing marginalisation and isolation. Hezbollah or Hamas are not capable of doing real damage, it's like hitting a tank with a stone, but undoubtedly they feel they must do something.
A.M. I totally agree with you - Netanhayu does not care. Fionnuala Perry - yes it is indeed utter slaughter. But it is not comparable to Babi Yar, in the sense that the Jews of Belarus were citizens of Belarus, not citizens of an adjoining country, and the Palestinians are and have been for many years (rightly or wrongly) firing missiles into Israel. The Jews of Babi Yar and elsewhere within occupied Europe did not have access to missiles, rockets, guns,suicide vests etc. I am in no way defending Israel - it is a nation with genocidal tendencies, and given the opportunity would likely commit genocide against the Palestinians in their midst. However, at the moment, the actions of Netanyahu are not comparable with Major-General Kurt Eberhard's action at Babi Yar where 33,771 Jews were killed in a single operation. I do not intend to upset anyone, I believe elements of the Knesset and other hardline Israelis would happily commit genocide against the innocent and helpless populations of Gaza and the West Bank.
my point is that the visual impact of a butchered child for me conjured up an image of Babi Yar; not that the killing of one child by Israel was on a par with what happened at Babi Yar.
However, over the course of time it seems that there is a policy of trying to cower the civilian population of Palestine by the systematic murder of its children. That in my view is no less evil than Babi Yar.
Dear Anthony MacIntyre, I am not very au fait with blogs and technology and can't see where to leave an email for you so i hope this is ok. I have just left a comment on your blog. I fear that i will be accused of being an apologist for israel. I am not. I want point out that when you compare the einsatzgrupen to the actions of Netanyahu you will inevitably have people point out that during WW2 on average 149 children per day were slaughtered, every day, for six brutally long years. That amounted to one and a half million dead jewish babies and children. Personally i think the situations ARE comparable, in the sense that the deliberate targeting of one and a half million children is no more evil than the deliberate targeting of one child but within even reform Judaism many people will play the numbers game, as a pathetic form of defense, and when tens of children are murdered in Gaza you will find plenty who say "Well, in WW2 one and a half million Jewish children were slaughtered." I think it's a case of people wanting to own the rights to suffering, and no one can honestly contend that Jews have not suffered. As the daughter of an east european jewish mother and an Irish republican father I am all too aware of previous generations claiming the rights to suffering. I grew up hearing the rhetoric over and over again ad infinitum. I try to defend anyone or any people who need defending, and mostly that is Palestinians, but please be aware that if you compare the israelis to nazis someone somewhere will play the numbers game, and that, i feel, diminishes the very real, brutal and murderous suffering that Palestinians are facing today. Thank you.
A.M - sorry, I added to my comment before i saw your reply. I am in total agreement with you. One murdered child is an aberration, yet another stain upon the human race - the discrepancy in numbers does not increase or diminish the evil, individual or collective suffering.
you contribution does not strike me as being an apologia for Israeli treatment of Palestinians. You make valid points. On occasion it has been hinted that I have behaved like an apologist for being critical of Palestinian atrocities against Israeli civilians. We can only say what we feel.
Good points. However the WW2 comparison/excuse is out of date and nothing to do with immigrant Jews from around the globe committing USA sanctioned genocide in Palestine. WW2 in fact is also out of date for the USA which has become the Nazis.
Nuala, Hezbollah beat the bollocks out of the Israelis when they invaded southern Lebanon in 2006, they then pulled out of southern Lebanon altogether after it, such was the hiding the bastards got. A lot of people have now, through social media and so on, mounted a campaign for people to refuse to buy Israeli goods (I never bought them in my life anyway) and good to them! Keep it up!
A.M - yes, you're absolutely right, saying what we feel is all we can do. But as we're not actually there we need to rely on news from somewhere - and although we love and respect our families it is so very difficult to find news without even a slightly biased slant. I'd like to say that i have been reading your blog for many years, since The Blanket, but this is the first time i have felt even mildly qualified to comment. I sense that your posts are truthful and honest and i very much enjoy and have learnt a lot from you, your guest writers and your regular contributors, so thank you all.
Former IRA volunteer and ex-prisoner, spent 18 years in Long Kesh, 4 years on the blanket and no-wash/no work protests which led to the hunger strikes of the 80s. Completed PhD at Queens upon release from prison. Left the Republican Movement at the endorsement of the Good Friday Agreement, and went on to become a journalist. Co-founder of The Blanket, an online magazine that critically analyzed the Irish peace process. Lead researcher for the Belfast Project, an oral history of the Troubles.
Social media is now quickly undermining centuries of state black propaganda and mind conditioning. The only role the BBC and CNN etc serve today is to enlighten us all as to how much we were being deceived.
ReplyDeleteIf they carry out an onslaught on social media will they charge people with telling the truth or failing to accept their lies??
It's pure and utter slaughter. Netanyahu is not only arrogant but totally detached from the suffering of thousands of people.
ReplyDeleteA poor wee baby dead, eighteen members of one family dead and yet, the slaughter goes on.
Israel has put two fingers up at the world for years. They have had more UN resolutions than any other country, but as Netanyahu declared yesterday, ' we will continue until we get what we want.'
Nuala,
ReplyDeletehe doesn't care in the slightest. Just one in a long line of Israeli war criminals. Maybe it is part of the human condition that 'when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.' We so often become doers of what has been done to us.
One banner on display in yesterday's Dublin March proclaimed:
ReplyDeleteOne Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every three days for the past 13 years
And yet the perpetrators would seek to tell the world that there is no Israeli state practice of infanticide. What unimaginable cruelty must lie behind a mind set that decides strategically to crush a people by the prolonged systemtic murder of its children.
On yesterday’s march in Dublin
ReplyDeleteMackers,
ReplyDeleteAriel Sharon was the same arrogant and scathing of anyone trying to broker a solution.
Now we can see that which we could never see before, people and children mutilated and it's sickening.
The strikes from Palestine have been in response to daily oppression and increasing marginalisation and isolation.
Hezbollah or Hamas are not capable of doing real damage, it's like hitting a tank with a stone, but undoubtedly they feel they must do something.
Americans continue to feign shock at 9/11. The only shock is that it took so long in coming.
ReplyDeleteA.M. I totally agree with you - Netanhayu does not care. Fionnuala Perry - yes it is indeed utter slaughter. But it is not comparable to Babi Yar, in the sense that the Jews of Belarus were citizens of Belarus, not citizens of an adjoining country, and the Palestinians are and have been for many years (rightly or wrongly) firing missiles into Israel. The Jews of Babi Yar and elsewhere within occupied Europe did not have access to missiles, rockets, guns,suicide vests etc. I am in no way defending Israel - it is a nation with genocidal tendencies, and given the opportunity would likely commit genocide against the Palestinians in their midst. However, at the moment, the actions of Netanyahu are not comparable with Major-General Kurt Eberhard's action at Babi Yar where 33,771 Jews were killed in a single operation. I do not intend to upset anyone, I believe elements of the Knesset and other hardline Israelis would happily commit genocide against the innocent and helpless populations of Gaza and the West Bank.
ReplyDeleteSarah,
ReplyDeletemy point is that the visual impact of a butchered child for me conjured up an image of Babi Yar; not that the killing of one child by Israel was on a par with what happened at Babi Yar.
However, over the course of time it seems that there is a policy of trying to cower the civilian population of Palestine by the systematic murder of its children. That in my view is no less evil than Babi Yar.
Dear Anthony MacIntyre, I am not very au fait with blogs and technology and can't see where to leave an email for you so i hope this is ok. I have just left a comment on your blog. I fear that i will be accused of being an apologist for israel. I am not. I want point out that when you compare the einsatzgrupen to the actions of Netanyahu you will inevitably have people point out that during WW2 on average 149 children per day were slaughtered, every day, for six brutally long years. That amounted to one and a half million dead jewish babies and children. Personally i think the situations ARE comparable, in the sense that the deliberate targeting of one and a half million children is no more evil than the deliberate targeting of one child but within even reform Judaism many people will play the numbers game, as a pathetic form of defense, and when tens of children are murdered in Gaza you will find plenty who say "Well, in WW2 one and a half million Jewish children were slaughtered." I think it's a case of people wanting to own the rights to suffering, and no one can honestly contend that Jews have not suffered. As the daughter of an east european jewish mother and an Irish republican father I am all too aware of previous generations claiming the rights to suffering. I grew up hearing the rhetoric over and over again ad infinitum. I try to defend anyone or any people who need defending, and mostly that is Palestinians, but please be aware that if you compare the israelis to nazis someone somewhere will play the numbers game, and that, i feel, diminishes the very real, brutal and murderous suffering that Palestinians are facing today. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteA.M - sorry, I added to my comment before i saw your reply. I am in total agreement with you. One murdered child is an aberration, yet another stain upon the human race - the discrepancy in numbers does not increase or diminish the evil, individual or collective suffering.
ReplyDeleteSarah,
ReplyDeleteyou contribution does not strike me as being an apologia for Israeli treatment of Palestinians. You make valid points. On occasion it has been hinted that I have behaved like an apologist for being critical of Palestinian atrocities against Israeli civilians. We can only say what we feel.
Sarah Heaton
ReplyDeleteGood points. However the WW2 comparison/excuse is out of date and nothing to do with immigrant Jews from around the globe committing USA sanctioned genocide in Palestine. WW2 in fact is also out of date for the USA which has become the Nazis.
Nuala, Hezbollah beat the bollocks out of the Israelis when they invaded southern Lebanon in 2006, they then pulled out of southern Lebanon altogether after it, such was the hiding the bastards got. A lot of people have now, through social media and so on, mounted a campaign for people to refuse to buy Israeli goods (I never bought them in my life anyway) and good to them! Keep it up!
ReplyDeleteA.M - yes, you're absolutely right, saying what we feel is all we can do. But as we're not actually there we need to rely on news from somewhere - and although we love and respect our families it is so very difficult to find news without even a slightly biased slant. I'd like to say that i have been reading your blog for many years, since The Blanket, but this is the first time i have felt even mildly qualified to comment. I sense that your posts are truthful and honest and i very much enjoy and have learnt a lot from you, your guest writers and your regular contributors, so thank you all.
ReplyDeleteLarry Hughes - completely agree. I made the comparison because of the title "Netanyahu Einsatzgruppen"
ReplyDeleteSarah,
ReplyDeletefeel free to comment on whatever you like. Your points make a lot of sense to me.
A.M, thank you.
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