tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post7776852413359597045..comments2024-03-28T04:50:14.406+00:00Comments on TPQ: Reflections On Loyalist Paramilitary Activity ➖ Sectarian MurderAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-75784411113838500362020-11-01T17:31:11.093+00:002020-11-01T17:31:11.093+00:00Regarding Trevor Kell's murder, I had held off...Regarding Trevor Kell's murder, I had held off expanding on it as I didn’t have the correct sources. I have since been able to locate them.<br /><br />Mr Kell’s family believe that he was murdered in a case of mistaken identity, and that the actual target was Archie (brother of Johnny, and referred to as James in other articles) Adair – see CAIN/Irish News. Archie Adair had been convicted Brandon Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846523287559978645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50279080928768754162020-10-23T11:14:56.853+01:002020-10-23T11:14:56.853+01:00I will inquire Steve but I don't think there i...I will inquire Steve but I don't think there is a lot we can do. the safest way is to write them on Word and then copy and pastes them into the comments AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-27698970938370849502020-10-23T11:04:42.392+01:002020-10-23T11:04:42.392+01:00All good Anthony, that was it. Be great if TPQ cou...All good Anthony, that was it. Be great if TPQ could expand the comment/writing blog to be a wee bit bigger as it makes it hard to edit our own comments before posting but appreciate this may not be possible. Hope all grand with you and the family. Cheers.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-55739487898395216472020-10-22T07:38:30.861+01:002020-10-22T07:38:30.861+01:00Steve - there was one from October 19 in spam and ...Steve - there was one from October 19 in spam and I just uploaded it. Is that the same one? If that happens in let me know. I tend never to look at the spam folder. No idea why it went to spam. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23486472961116578282020-10-22T07:35:39.854+01:002020-10-22T07:35:39.854+01:00Steve - that's a strange one - sometimes they ...Steve - that's a strange one - sometimes they don't come through because of a signal glitch, even for a second, but it is rare. If they get through we always get a blogger email alert and nothing on this occasion. I haven't looked at the spam folder but there is no reason for your comment to go there. Do you have a copy of it? Repost if you do. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60704570138836720432020-10-21T21:23:23.290+01:002020-10-21T21:23:23.290+01:00Well, that's just incorrect. The UDA or UVF wo...Well, that's just incorrect. The UDA or UVF would have no qualms about retaliating for the sectarian murder of Kells. <br /><br />Humiliation wasn't part of it. As you so helpfully provided the youtube link to, you can even hear what was the underlaying sentiment was direct from a Glenbyrn resident.<br /><br />She said the Provos had them tortured for years up there. Obviously the Kells Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62204913337182826752020-10-20T22:19:28.281+01:002020-10-20T22:19:28.281+01:00@ Steve R
Here's where I answered your questi...@ Steve R<br /><br />Here's where I answered your question earlier. I'm also interested in your thoughts on seeing actual video footage of the schoolchildren being abused, provided in my previous comment.<br /><br />"I have already said why I think Catholic schoolchildren were targeted in 01/02. Loyalist ceasefires were in place, and the UDA/UVF seemed unable to engage in random Brandon Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846523287559978645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-70742695642634747422020-10-20T21:37:07.792+01:002020-10-20T21:37:07.792+01:00No. I did not compare the thugs at the Holy Cross ...No. I did not compare the thugs at the Holy Cross with the Nazis. I remarked on the ability of people to deny what is in front of their eyes. <br />Nobody accused you of anything in relation to Holy Cross other than being in a state of denial. Those who vented hate on the children were evil. <br />Brandon dealt with your point about timing in another discussion when he referred to the type of AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32782240145431947032020-10-20T21:27:52.325+01:002020-10-20T21:27:52.325+01:00""The Holy Cross was never about kids&qu...""The Holy Cross was never about kids". What a statement. The Holocaust was never about Jews either, I guess."<br /><br />Godwin's Law Anthony, seriously? You are seriously trying to compare the Nazi's with the residents of Glenbryn?<br /><br />I expected more from you. We are not some demonic evil force who arbitrarily attack children and I note none of you have Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-70169808085392620892020-10-20T07:33:09.157+01:002020-10-20T07:33:09.157+01:00Steve - perhaps you do not accept the analogy beca...Steve - perhaps you do not accept the analogy because it works and is based in the testimony of the child victims. The priest of course, like the hate filled bigot, will say it is not about the kids .. there is always something else. The rest of the world looking on knows what happened much as they knew what happened in Alabama and elsewhere.<br /> <br />"The Holy Cross was never about kids&AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-91483773044932181932020-10-19T22:01:28.970+01:002020-10-19T22:01:28.970+01:00"I think the victory for Finucane was a posit..."I think the victory for Finucane was a positive thing. I don't allow my own prejudices blind me to what is progressive - when the DUP favour a woman's right to choose and marriage equality I will welcome that too. Wouldn't you?"<br /><br />Yes, but I'd check outside to see if Hell had frozen over first!<br /><br />Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25855705074766433612020-10-19T21:59:39.779+01:002020-10-19T21:59:39.779+01:00"We will have the testimony of the tormented ..."We will have the testimony of the tormented children as the non-hearsay evidence much as we had it from children against the clerics who abused them. The clerics will of course say they were seduced and that it not rape but consensual. And I am sure some will buy into it."<br /><br />I simply don't accept that analogy. Holy Cross was never about the kids. I have never heard one Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-64227773362020573662020-10-19T21:48:39.073+01:002020-10-19T21:48:39.073+01:00"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXCeJAGJbY&...<br />"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXCeJAGJbY"<br /><br />Backs turned and blowing whistles. Hardly very threatening.<br /><br />"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEIX-I_Y8qw"<br /><br />Only violence here was the cops beating the residents back, and who knows the context of the question put to that CoI clergyman? Quite obviously edited for maximum effect. But thanks for Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-91608000945423765962020-10-19T16:18:37.309+01:002020-10-19T16:18:37.309+01:00@ Steve R
I've compiled a quick list of links...@ Steve R<br /><br />I've compiled a quick list of links with video evidence of loyalists abusing schoolgirls. <br /><br />I'm genuinely curious to know how you feel having watched this?<br /><br />Blowing whistles, sounding claxons:<br /><br />Billy Hutchinson "This [loyalist] community has been abused."<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwXCeJAGJbY<br /><br />News Brandon Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846523287559978645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90112801129749910072020-10-19T07:46:16.064+01:002020-10-19T07:46:16.064+01:00Steve - you condemn it while not identifying the p...Steve - you condemn it while not identifying the problem of hatred against children - in fact you deny it. <br />We will have the testimony of the tormented children as the non-hearsay evidence much as we had it from children against the clerics who abused them. The clerics will of course say they were seduced and that it not rape but consensual. And I am sure some will buy into it.<br />I think AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-21295183948768909732020-10-18T21:38:29.520+01:002020-10-18T21:38:29.520+01:00Either with or without a photo or video I condemn ...Either with or without a photo or video I condemn it, but that's what I was told by the residents. Will never be more than hearsay on both our parts without us witnessing it ourselves.<br /><br />When did I deny the hate? I stated above that fear leads to hate.<br /><br />Finucane? Never thought you'd think a vote for the Shinners as a 'warming' thing Anthony, and lets be honest, Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-5615433422506834312020-10-18T11:36:17.777+01:002020-10-18T11:36:17.777+01:00Tempus fugitTempus fugitHenry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42815135227018944742020-10-18T11:04:14.088+01:002020-10-18T11:04:14.088+01:00This Hate We Shall Maintain written the day after ...<a href="http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu:81/thishate.html" rel="nofollow">This Hate We Shall Maintain</a> written the day after the hate attack refers to footageAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-46354756277574569932020-10-18T10:49:53.540+01:002020-10-18T10:49:53.540+01:00A long time ago Henry Joy - now she lives in Dubli...A long time ago Henry Joy - now she lives in Dublin and knows the city as well as I knew Belfast. Time moves very quickAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49037254683806258032020-10-18T09:32:42.601+01:002020-10-18T09:32:42.601+01:00Thanks for the link-back to 'I see Dead People...Thanks for the link-back to 'I see Dead People' <br /><br />Great piece of penmanship ... vicariously spent the afternoon with Fírinne and yourself Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-13830136862557672302020-10-18T08:35:35.871+01:002020-10-18T08:35:35.871+01:00I no longer recall if there was a video although I...I no longer recall if there was a video although I remember writing the following which ended on the matter. I do recall an English journalist telling me he witnessed it which is what I probably went on. He was neither a parent nor a child attacker so had no dog in the fight. <a href="http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu:81/isee.html" rel="nofollow">I see Dead People</a> If it is true I am sure the AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-78227365231221175222020-10-17T23:08:38.775+01:002020-10-17T23:08:38.775+01:00"When adult men bend down to scream into the ..."When adult men bend down to scream into the faces of four year olds, "fenian bastard" how else do we describe it?"<br /><br />I've never seen video or footage of that, if you can post one I'll reconsider my position.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-28093200824536409132020-10-16T09:11:03.628+01:002020-10-16T09:11:03.628+01:00Steve
I have a buddy who worked with her in Calcu...Steve<br /><br />I have a buddy who worked with her in Calcutta <br />By his account she was a right tough cookie <br />If I remember correctly I read somewhere that the 'black dog' shadowed her quite a bit too<br /><br />(Bit of metaphorical licence taken alright but appreciate that you were able to take my point)Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89916299239550872342020-10-16T07:40:18.564+01:002020-10-16T07:40:18.564+01:00The children of Józefów weere walking with their p...The children of Józefów weere walking with their parents as well. They were targeted for murder and no one yet has said they were not. Yet here we have you, a supposedly enlightened loyalist, trying to deny that the children at Holy Cross were targeted. When adult men bend down to scream into the faces of four year olds, "fenian bastard" how else do we describe it? AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19911457051348558902020-10-15T21:33:43.217+01:002020-10-15T21:33:43.217+01:00"Think you are in a minority of one here Stev..."Think you are in a minority of one here Steve - it was the kids that were targeted - people screaming into the faces of four year olds "fenian bastards."<br /><br />Were the four year olds walking by themselves to school through a riot?Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.com