tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post5683597716812557637..comments2024-03-28T13:35:30.500+00:00Comments on TPQ: The Peace Deal That Is All IsraelAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-65906962684181516212018-08-18T14:10:49.866+01:002018-08-18T14:10:49.866+01:00Frankie,
I know the double standar...Frankie,<br /> I know the double standard on war crimes is infuriating. I.e the press have no problem criticising Russia, Assad it's saturation time concerning those two but the same outrage doesn't reach the Israeli army or nato and through frustration it's easy to lash out. That said to equate all Israelis with Zionism is nonsense and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-10284090904581766292018-08-17T20:12:42.627+01:002018-08-17T20:12:42.627+01:00Barry,
I have re-read what you posted several tim...Barry,<br /><br />I have re-read what you posted several times and I stand over what I said. I think you are hard work. What is the difference between a Jew, Roma, homosexual, black person being starved to death, beaten, abused in Auschwitz-Birkenau by a German boot and Allied forces doing the same to German soliders in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMvBKKRM9lo&t=2636s" rel="frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-54016962649168856532018-07-28T15:03:00.965+01:002018-07-28T15:03:00.965+01:00Frankie
Should ethnic Russians settled in Estonia...Frankie<br /><br />Should ethnic Russians settled in Estonia and Latvia by Stalin "fcuk off"; should Han Chinese settled in Tibet after its occupation in 1959 "fcuk off"; should Castilian Spaniards settled in the Basque country by Franco "fcuk off"; it was a never a demand of the ANC and Nelson Mandela that Afrikaaners "Fcuk off"; should Arabs settled in Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-52100844939933220492018-07-28T00:27:28.487+01:002018-07-28T00:27:28.487+01:00Barry its the weekend relax,
I NEVER meant to say...Barry its the weekend relax,<br /><br /><i><b>I NEVER meant to say that all non-Native American groups be repatriated from the USA.</b></i><br /><br />But you did...Because I reckon the Eastern European colonizers who occupy Palestine should kindly "Fcuk off". <br /><br /><i><b>The point I was making was that the genocidal crimes perpetrated against the native Americans was far worse frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-40857941063767346872018-07-27T23:19:56.233+01:002018-07-27T23:19:56.233+01:00David
Condemnation of the Nation State law is mo...David<br /><br />Condemnation of the Nation State law is most certain not anti-Semitic nor is condemnation of Wahabbism anti-Muslim no more than condemnation of Vatican strictures on artificial contraception makes one anti-Catholic. The IHRA does not stand in the way of such condemnation.<br /><br /><br />If you want further evidence of the contemporary left antisemitism that has infected the Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-52307786048721496902018-07-27T19:43:12.257+01:002018-07-27T19:43:12.257+01:00Barry,
I never said that, I said it cou...Barry,<br /> I never said that, I said it could very easily lead to it, I think it will. What's wrong with the original definition? If we said criticism of wahabbism was Islamophobic, would it be ok? Why the different definition for Jews? I fear it would lead to a rise in antisemitism not a decline. I.e if someone says the new Jewish nation state law could lead to discrimination Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60927389895182797762018-07-27T15:03:36.997+01:002018-07-27T15:03:36.997+01:00Frankie
I NEVER meant to say that all non-Native ...Frankie<br /><br />I NEVER meant to say that all non-Native American groups be repatriated from the USA. I was merely postulating such a ridiculous scenario and using a little irony as a riposte to your "send them 'home' " proposal for Israeli Jews of Eastern European origin. The point that I am trying to illustrate is that the USA, Canada and Australia were much more racist Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-80766120612525741472018-07-27T09:01:17.940+01:002018-07-27T09:01:17.940+01:00antisemitism alert!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/...antisemitism alert!!!!!!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DKeLLlaws8<br /><br />what would u say to her barry - that shes anti-semitic!!!!!<br /><br />a hate filled facebook page is a hate filled facebook page. white phosphorous is a tad more scary. what u rather wake up to - a bit of trolling or ur skin on fire? seriously - is this the best u can come up with - a fucking facebook page?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69396620757133019912018-07-27T00:05:27.277+01:002018-07-27T00:05:27.277+01:00David
Unfortunately far too many pro-Palestinian ...David<br /><br />Unfortunately far too many pro-Palestinian activism and discourse use the most notorious anti-Semitic tropes (Zionist control of the media; equation of Zionism with Nazism, Jews more loyal towards Israel than their country of residence) in their campaign to demonise Israel. This is at the core of the Labour Party's antisemitism problem. I can point you in the direction of Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-72327430945263505662018-07-26T20:51:04.597+01:002018-07-26T20:51:04.597+01:00Frankie, I do not believe in the repatriation of a...<i><b>Frankie, I do not believe in the repatriation of any group.</b></i><br /><br />Really,<br /><br /><br /><i><b> How about sending back every one of the USA's diasporic communities (Irish, Italian, German, Scottish etc)</b></i><br /><br />Barry,<br />Before you dig the hole you are in any deeper, go back and read the original piece.<br /><br />And if this one line doesn't say Nazism Ifrankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-36904873944198028562018-07-26T09:06:09.963+01:002018-07-26T09:06:09.963+01:00Barry,
I know what it says, but do yo...Barry,<br /> I know what it says, but do you not think it's leading? Should anti semitic definition not be a feeling of superiority over, or hatred towards Jews. To me this feels politicised, I worry about, in future reference people equating Palestinian activists with headcases who celebrate Hitler's birthday it's counter productive on every level.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-10088101367631506862018-07-25T10:09:20.443+01:002018-07-25T10:09:20.443+01:00Frankie
I do not believe in the repatriation of an...Frankie<br />I do not believe in the repatriation of any group.<br /><br />The point I was making was that the genocidal crimes perpetrated against the native Americans was far worse than any Zionist crimes, alleged or otherwise, against the Palestinian Arabs who btw are 20% Christian<br /><br /><br /><br />Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-16995933466014620762018-07-25T00:26:06.057+01:002018-07-25T00:26:06.057+01:00Frankie
I have no personal connection to the Midd...Frankie<br /><br />I have no personal connection to the Middle East but am opposed to racism of any kind(including contemporary left and Islamist antisemitism).<br /><br /><br />I support a two-state solution in historic Palestine as both Jews and Arabs are indigenous peoples to the area and have equal entitlement to live there.<br /><br /><br />I never said that Jews were Nazism's only Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14926562402913612702018-07-25T00:10:43.821+01:002018-07-25T00:10:43.821+01:00David
The IHRA definition of antisemitism does no...David<br /><br />The IHRA definition of antisemitism does not preclude criticism of the State of Israel. It does not preclude condemnation of settlement building on the West Bank; repressive military and administrative measures on the West Bank; shooting protestors at the Gaza border fence; disproportionate IDF responses to Hamas rocket attacks etc. It is not anti-Semitic to call these Israel Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-604371718680877152018-07-24T20:59:10.976+01:002018-07-24T20:59:10.976+01:00Barry,
Let's take this logic a stage further. ...Barry,<br /><i>Let's take this logic a stage further. How about sending back every one of the USA's diasporic communities (Irish, Italian, German, Scottish etc) because of the genocide of the Native America nations and/or because of the institutionalised racism against the African American populace.</i><br /><br /><br />Let's take the Scottish first.... Now the first wave of Scottishfrankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69286507957048097672018-07-24T20:02:23.034+01:002018-07-24T20:02:23.034+01:00Barry,
There is NO comparable document in Israeli...Barry,<br /><br /><i>There is NO comparable document in Israeli history to that of the Final Solution agreed at the Wannsee Conference in January 1942 which was fully minuted;</i><br /><br />So Balfours 1917 declaration to Walter Rothschild stating the setting up of a Jewish homeland is what exactly? We know what Jacob Rothschild thought about it (scroll back and refresh your memory and click on frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-43165780560052685892018-07-24T19:09:25.860+01:002018-07-24T19:09:25.860+01:00Barry,
Read the I.H.R.A definition the...Barry,<br /> Read the I.H.R.A definition there, have some problems with that. The part about holding Israel to a higher standard reads to me as a precursor to making criticism of Israel illegal. For a start I don't think people do hold Israel to a greater responsibility, quite the opposite, when was the last time the bbc was critical of Israel? A million people marched to protest Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60548947248393462352018-07-24T10:20:14.707+01:002018-07-24T10:20:14.707+01:00Frankie
Who remembers and who is calling for the ...Frankie<br /><br />Who remembers and who is calling for the right of return for 12m ethnic Germans expelled from Eastern Europe after 1945? <br /><br /><br />Your call for the expulsion of European origin Jews from Israel/Palestine is no different from Portadown Loyalists calling for Garvaghey Road residents to be rerouted out of Ulster at the height of the Drumcree Parade crisis or that there &Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25052402070453046922018-07-23T23:36:41.508+01:002018-07-23T23:36:41.508+01:00Frankie
I cannot believe I am having to say this ...Frankie<br /><br />I cannot believe I am having to say this but I will nevertheless: there is absolutely NO equivalence between the industrial mass murder of six million Jews in the Shoah/Holocaust and Israel's treatment of the Palestinian population since 1948. There is NO comparable document in Israeli history to that of the Final Solution agreed at the Wannsee Conference in January 1942 Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-11875694177509286512018-07-22T18:15:28.618+01:002018-07-22T18:15:28.618+01:00Barry,
On this TPQ piece you said..."I find...Barry,<br />On <a href="http://thepensivequill.am/2018/07/vichy-essence.html?showComment=1532215759549#c152527293296974318" rel="nofollow"> this</a> TPQ piece you said..."<i>I find the author's Vichy comparisons utterly inappropriate. For France, like much of Europe in the 1940s, was invaded and occupied by an eliminationist and utterly barbaric totalitarian power.</i>"<br /><br />frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19144284041302495752018-07-22T15:44:49.964+01:002018-07-22T15:44:49.964+01:00Barry,
Lastly I have to ask why this obsession wi...Barry,<br /><br /><i>Lastly I have to ask why this obsession with Israel with so many Irish people and sections of the Left (I belong to both parishes)</i><br /><br />First, I will clear up that point from my own perspective. I have been having these types of interactions on and off 26/27 yrs. Fairly often with my oldest daughter who is an Irish/French Jew also with her mother who is a French frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-44122458249722459712018-07-21T20:19:52.298+01:002018-07-21T20:19:52.298+01:00Frankie
So all Israeli Jews of European descent s...Frankie<br /><br />So all Israeli Jews of European descent should be deported back to where their ancestors were gassed and immolated. Back to a continent that is putting up the drawbridge against waves of other Middle Eastern refugees; back to a continent where anti-Jewishness is alive and kicking again<br /><br />Let's take this logic a stage further. How about sending back every one of Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-18692248679757357202018-07-21T19:46:58.864+01:002018-07-21T19:46:58.864+01:00Frankie
Abul's political leadership in the fo...Frankie<br /><br />Abul's political leadership in the form of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was an avowed pro-Nazi, visited Hitler in Berlin; accompanied Himmler to Auschtwitz and helped to set up an SS Bosnian Muslim brigade to fight on the Eastern Front for the Nazis. Had the Wehrmacht been successful in in the North African campaign then they would have made a bee-line for Palestine where Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-9114191826513245642018-07-21T14:47:10.004+01:002018-07-21T14:47:10.004+01:00Barry,
OED definition of antisemitism: "hosti...Barry,<br /><i>OED definition of antisemitism: "hostility to or prejudice against Jews" End of.</i><br /><br />Barry, chill out, it's the weekend. Has the thought ever entered your head that they are wrong and the real anti semites are the European Jews? You are aware <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages" rel="nofollow"> Semite</a> refers to a group of frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-68036012275213479762018-07-21T01:08:39.392+01:002018-07-21T01:08:39.392+01:00David
Where IDF snipers deliberately targeted una...David<br /><br />Where IDF snipers deliberately targeted unarmed civilians then yes they should be prosecuted with the full rigours of Israeli domestic and international law. But I cannot ignore the involvement of Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the whole dreadful episode which makes comparisons with Bloody Sunday and Sharpeville preposterous.<br /><br />Regarding antisemitism in the Labour Party, Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.com