tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post5626005796427720905..comments2024-03-29T15:14:51.289+00:00Comments on TPQ: Military Errors 1916AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-4799803267014195412022-11-01T23:32:20.520+00:002022-11-01T23:32:20.520+00:00The odds of a successful rebellion were always pre...The odds of a successful rebellion were always pretty slim, given the paucity of training, experience and weapons the rebels had. Stories from the Bureau of Military History include a bayonet being formed by welding a garden shear blades to a shotgun or Galway Volunteers using homemade grenades that were so bad that one participant didn't think they would have done any harm even if they had Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04474812106727865107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-4557969049366408252022-10-31T11:50:59.021+00:002022-10-31T11:50:59.021+00:00Will do Henry, sounds the best bet.
Caoimhin O...Will do Henry, sounds the best bet.<br /><br />Caoimhin O'MuraileCaoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57509288464069338932022-10-30T08:44:24.108+00:002022-10-30T08:44:24.108+00:00Caoimhín,
I'm a library user and advocate too ...Caoimhín,<br />I'm a library user and advocate too ... but if there's a €17 surplus in this week's budget, then buy it.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-67391901803460801142022-10-29T21:45:05.591+01:002022-10-29T21:45:05.591+01:00That sounds a fair assement Henry, as a theoretica...That sounds a fair assement Henry, as a theoretical Marxist myself and socialist republican, I realise the ideal is the ultimate goal which cannot be done by going, for example, from A straight to Z, or A to U in the Irish alphabet, while missing all other letters between. If that makes any sense.<br />I still want to read John Crawleys book from an objective point. Had it on order from the Caoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-59054805042498620082022-10-29T17:40:44.168+01:002022-10-29T17:40:44.168+01:00Even though it sometimes reads as a hagiography fo...Even though it sometimes reads as a hagiography for the 'Irish Republic' Caoimhin, I'd still highly recommend it. <br />John is hardly alone in his idealistic tendencies but like idealists of all hues he fails to grasp that those same ideals are limited in their usefulness, save but in terms of orientation. Yes, the ideal can be the guiding star but if people are to keep their feet Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62614225855270413422022-10-29T12:14:28.385+01:002022-10-29T12:14:28.385+01:00It is possible Mick, though Connolly said to an IC...It is possible Mick, though Connolly said to an ICA officer, "we are going out to be slaughtered", whether he believed that himself I do not know and he's not around to ask. I do know he did not wholly trust the Volunteers. <br />What the Volunteer leadership told their troops, unlike the socialist ICA, were all male, I only know of Pearses "blood sacrifice" rantings, not Caoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32703988597677439142022-10-29T12:07:36.597+01:002022-10-29T12:07:36.597+01:00I know, Henry, Redmond took his larger faction to ...I know, Henry, Redmond took his larger faction to be slaughtered in France, ironically alongside the 36th Ulster Rifles, originally the UVF. "Full steam ahead John Redmond said that all is well chum, home rule will come when we are dead and burried out in Belgium" (James Connolly).<br /><br />I must read John Crawleys book, I was unaware of the situation you speak of in Galway. Thanks Caoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25393309132359389142022-10-29T00:43:05.660+01:002022-10-29T00:43:05.660+01:00Caoimhín
I think you fail to understand who the &...Caoimhín <br />I think you fail to understand who the 'Irish Volunteers' actually were: essentially the majority were nationalists rather than republican. Their genesis was largely a mirror response to Carson's Ulster Volunteer Force, a response to the formation of the the UVF. The Volunteer movement was originally initiated by Redmond and other leading constitutional nationalists. ItHenry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-75870820268556315432022-10-29T00:19:12.075+01:002022-10-29T00:19:12.075+01:00Caoimhin. After the capture of Roger Casement and ...Caoimhin. After the capture of Roger Casement and the seizure of the German arms shipments at Beanna Strand, he probably realised that any realistic hope of military success for the Rising had disappeared.Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-35214846329234511482022-10-28T21:02:45.780+01:002022-10-28T21:02:45.780+01:00Is it possible the leaders of 1916 hoped their act...Is it possible the leaders of 1916 hoped their actions would have a domino effect around the country and the often peddled insinuation that they set out to die as martyrs is not entirely true? Like volunteers of later campaigns, I am sure they partook in operations that could've killed them but they hoped that wouldn't be the case and that their efforts would result in knock on effects. MickOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06278524870773217698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41382971654495171552022-10-28T16:18:39.661+01:002022-10-28T16:18:39.661+01:00I understand Pearse's belief in the blood sacr...I understand Pearse's belief in the blood sacrifice, not least his own, what I'm saying is it was winnable under diferent conditions. In my view the insurgents were right to go ahead. Connolly realised the fact itwas not winnable, certainly with the forces available. When asked by anothe ICA soldier, what will happen, he replied "we are going out to be slaughtered" and to hold Caoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62495218374158544582022-10-28T10:37:40.803+01:002022-10-28T10:37:40.803+01:00That was the reason Pearse et al went ahead with i...That was the reason Pearse et al went ahead with it. They knew they would lose the battle but that their subsequent martyrdom would would them the war in the long run.Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57673705572286080952022-10-28T10:27:37.421+01:002022-10-28T10:27:37.421+01:00I don't think you read what I wrote Terry. I s...I don't think you read what I wrote Terry. I said "had a different set of conditions prevailed" it was possible to win. One of those conditions was the full mobilisation of the Volunteers nationally, another being the seizure of better weapons from the OTC to name but two. Victory under those circumstances was possible particulary as the British were slugging it out in Fance, their Caoimhin O'Murailehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014116388545562992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-36872347940858745182022-10-27T20:15:07.373+01:002022-10-27T20:15:07.373+01:00There was not a chance in hell of the East Rising ...There was not a chance in hell of the East Rising ending any other way than it did. The only surprise is that it last for as long as it did. No matter how noble the intentions of those who took part in it a few amateurs with limited arms were never going to defeat the British military. Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14098008693125731263noreply@blogger.com