tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post5162276157865616165..comments2024-03-18T23:04:56.177+00:00Comments on TPQ: Welfare Is Not SocialismAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45370764881197257162021-02-17T22:02:54.689+00:002021-02-17T22:02:54.689+00:00Steve, I agree that many governments are biased to...Steve, I agree that many governments are biased to their core supporters, and so cannot be trusted to control PPPs. I was only giving the principle, that it could be worked. I wouldn't trust this or any recent UK government to do so.<br /><br />Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06874590970329192225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-84823315238467299062021-02-17T21:23:48.825+00:002021-02-17T21:23:48.825+00:00"When my neighbour quotes scripture, I count ..."When my neighbour quotes scripture, I count my sheep."<br /><br />The Dude 17:98<br /><br />This parable isn't concerned with the welfare of the sheep, indeed even the Shepard wants to feast, fleece or fuck the sheep, rather it is a metaphor regarding the unintended consequences of preaching ideas which haven't been entirely worked out. Like...<br /><br />"Not that the Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48924429323306884472021-02-17T18:00:52.430+00:002021-02-17T18:00:52.430+00:00Steve, as AM said, it was originally addressed to ...Steve, as AM said, it was originally addressed to those who fear that State Welfare is an open door to neck-shots and gulags.<br /><br />I am merely showing them that is not the case.<br /><br />Yes, I share your fear that private enterprise would run the NHS in survival mode. That's why I said the State would have to make sure it actually worked.Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06874590970329192225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-666968717383530192021-02-17T08:20:23.789+00:002021-02-17T08:20:23.789+00:00Steve - I took a much less jaundiced view of the p...Steve - I took a much less jaundiced view of the piece because I sensed Ian was trying to promote the concept of the NHS against a cruel right wing perspective which wants the state to stick almost exclusively to defending order against internal or external threat. <br />Government is so essential to modern societies that it is impossible for me to comprehend how society can function without themAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-20538153204378928982021-02-17T02:12:36.323+00:002021-02-17T02:12:36.323+00:00Well that's a wide ranging and deranged way of...Well that's a wide ranging and deranged way of looking at things Ian.<br /><br />There seems to be a disconnect in your thinking about what socialism is, and you are falling into that Tory trap of assuming every aspect of socialism is bad.<br /><br />The NHS was set up to look after the people, the same people who thought that if they could afford a war they could afford a healthcare system. Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.com