tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post4304867580864405270..comments2024-03-29T06:51:03.388+00:00Comments on TPQ: Republicans and Loyalists Hide Behind Rising MythsAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-38912931999210757182014-04-30T19:46:14.204+01:002014-04-30T19:46:14.204+01:00Max Headroom said:
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That's w...Max Headroom said:<br />[Wolfsbane said...<br />That's where al our effort should be applied - not on seeking to force or con the other side into something they detest.]<br />'Your fathers would certainly know all about that wouldn't they!<br />From the barrels of British flintlocks to gerrymandering and every other devious method in between they got their evil way imposing THEIR willWolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25697975490778322732014-04-30T19:37:55.026+01:002014-04-30T19:37:55.026+01:00David, thanks for the previous greeting in Irish. ...David, thanks for the previous greeting in Irish. I've been busy engaging in theological discussions, but have kept an eye on TPQ for insights and questions that arise.<br /><br />'Wolfesbane,<br />Of course it is there is a chance you wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for English imperialism.'<br /><br />Correct. <br /><br />'No doubt there would have been other Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14820357197623777002014-04-29T18:07:11.747+01:002014-04-29T18:07:11.747+01:00Wolfsbane said...
That's where al our effort ...Wolfsbane said...<br /><br />That's where al our effort should be applied - not on seeking to force or con the other side into something they detest.<br /><br /><br />Your fathers would certainly know all about that wouldn't they!<br /> <br />From the barrels of British flintlocks to gerrymandering and every other devious method in between they got their evil way imposing THEIR will on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25865189487840058322014-04-29T17:56:15.811+01:002014-04-29T17:56:15.811+01:00Wolfesbane,
Of course it i...Wolfesbane,<br /> Of course it is there is a chance you wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for English imperialism. No doubt there would have been other injustices and violence in a parallel universe where the English weren't military superior. Dealing with this universe all Ireland's historical and current grievances are laid at the door of English might Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-17068605521108790002014-04-29T14:51:47.770+01:002014-04-29T14:51:47.770+01:00David Higgins said:
'why do unionist always om...David Higgins said:<br />'why do unionist always omit that British imperialism is the ONLY component of Irelands agony. Is it not?'<br /><br />No, it is not. As I said to AM Og, the British State would/could not keep us out of a UI if we were sure such a state was desirable. We are not their lapdogs. <br /><br />Ireland's agony (in recent history) has been down to its failure to Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69724693666580826802014-04-29T14:44:27.593+01:002014-04-29T14:44:27.593+01:00AM Og said:
'the problem is an 'ENGLISH...AM Og said:<br />'the problem is an 'ENGLISH' problem'<br /><br />And ours too, be we Ulster or Irish. Our conflict hurt all sides.<br /><br />But if you mean the problem is CAUSED by the English, then that is simplistic. Ireland and Britain had a relationship that was two-way. Gaelic politics had its share in England's intervention here. <br /><br />But old history is notWolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23770206115302002702014-04-28T21:42:37.384+01:002014-04-28T21:42:37.384+01:00Wolfesbane
Where have you been a cara? ...Wolfesbane<br /> Where have you been a cara? You ask hypothetical questions about how Ireland would have been if unionists were "forced" into a united Ireland which is fair enough, however why do unionist always omit that British imperialism is the ONLY component of Irelands agony. Is it not?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-20110866259851876772014-04-28T20:57:34.291+01:002014-04-28T20:57:34.291+01:00A closed minded analyst that partition was and is ...A closed minded analyst that partition was and is a compromise to the 'IRISH' problem. While trying to compare oppressor and oppressed, without the objective analyst the problem is an 'ENGLISH' problem, and that its not republican's who have brought the gun into Irish politics but the British. And that its not the so called dissidents that hold that gun to the head of the AM Oghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11914062470501490328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-27247456679396256462014-04-28T20:26:52.906+01:002014-04-28T20:26:52.906+01:00A thoughtful piece by Newton. But the Redmondite ...A thoughtful piece by Newton. But the Redmondite 'political path to unity without violence' needs detailed examination. Were all peaceful paths explored? Were all possible compromises short of unity explored? Was unity a wise goal anyway?<br /><br />Niall rehearses the traditional analysis - Unionist 'bluff' - a key error of Republican thinking. A very dangerous one, for it Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23530054713916260802014-04-28T19:44:55.494+01:002014-04-28T19:44:55.494+01:00Correct Niall.
Ethnic chauvinism from the British...Correct Niall. <br />Ethnic chauvinism from the British was the reason the Rising leaders asserted the right of the people of Ireland to govern themselves. This ‘all as bad as eachother’ bullshit makes liberals feel good and non-judgemental, but just isn’t supported in the facts, it cannot be allowed to pass unchallenged or else it will return as an agreed truth in the future.DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-10681035871850854412014-04-28T15:47:28.053+01:002014-04-28T15:47:28.053+01:00A tenuous attempt to run two revolts along the sam...A tenuous attempt to run two revolts along the same rails, implying their beginning and their end destination are one and the same – one had their freedom and never intended to lose it or gamble it away and so played a bluff. After all it was the Establishment revolting against the Establishment!!!! The other didn’t and intended to win it – theirs was no bluff. <br />Typical unionist clap-trap Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.com