tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post2091289769523623229..comments2024-03-29T12:11:17.511+00:00Comments on TPQ: Dr. Seuss Racist ReduxAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50385849586497765312021-07-08T22:48:18.968+01:002021-07-08T22:48:18.968+01:00I may have been too harsh in my opine. My apologie...I may have been too harsh in my opine. My apologies.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-72244833023520435882021-07-07T22:35:56.580+01:002021-07-07T22:35:56.580+01:00Brilliant book, have they not changed the name to ...Brilliant book, have they not changed the name to Ten Little Indians? It was a take on counting just like the eanie, meanie,minie, moe selection rhyme we used when playing street games -it is now, catch an elephant by the toe. Our views, morals and standards change or become more refined -like a dummy tit (teat) is now a soother -as you say, none of it changes the past but it can in some ways Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-65717359376927942212021-07-07T22:02:48.061+01:002021-07-07T22:02:48.061+01:00Completely fair, Anthony. It’s always prudent to a...Completely fair, Anthony. It’s always prudent to acknowledge the times, and those who inhabited them, for what they were. It is in many ways unfair, and frankly arrogant, to impose our modern values on figures of the past who were the products of very different socialization. That said, when it comes to issues of race in America, this case is a nice illustration of the extent to which racism is PFTrumborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09211997254520290750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-70426968596651729802021-07-07T22:02:16.488+01:002021-07-07T22:02:16.488+01:00Frankie/AM,
100 % though I must admit I found the...Frankie/AM,<br /><br />100 % though I must admit I found the humour in it!Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-63724928948788378042021-07-07T18:09:26.538+01:002021-07-07T18:09:26.538+01:00Peter - I think we often tend to ignore just how s...Peter - I think we often tend to ignore just how social attitudes can be. We who have been socialised into seeing things very differently from Dr Seuss would be prudent not to think we arrived at that position as a result of our individual selves. The socialised vantage point we view him from was never something he had the benefit of. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-348232390036811002021-07-07T17:37:17.999+01:002021-07-07T17:37:17.999+01:00Let me say that I do in fact still enjoy much of t...Let me say that I do in fact still enjoy much of the Dr. Seuss canon. I don't think that's a contradiction with acknowledging that some of his work, including many of his WWII-era propaganda cartoons, are, by today's standards, pretty clearly racist. Even is those depictions were perfectly acceptable when he drew them. <br /><br />I'll also point out that these two books, both of PFTrumborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09211997254520290750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-63628846809736923512021-07-07T09:11:29.646+01:002021-07-07T09:11:29.646+01:00Steve is absolutely right about the petals and sno...Steve is absolutely right about the petals and snowflakes. I am sure he is just as capable of seeing it in the loyalist community as elsewhere. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90414687959206136582021-07-07T09:08:07.178+01:002021-07-07T09:08:07.178+01:00which is a choice we should all be free to make. I...which is a choice we should all be free to make. I wonder more about the obliteration of past truths in a bid to appease modern sentiment. For example the calls to ban Agatha Christie's book, Ten Little Niggers. It was of its time. Banning it today is a meaningless gesture. Same as insisting on banning the N word when it is used in the context of referring to that particular book title. None AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-44690741655672669532021-07-07T08:47:39.252+01:002021-07-07T08:47:39.252+01:00Stevie,
The problem with today's society isn&...Stevie,<br /><br /><i>The problem with today's society isn't "woke" or "conservative" people, it's raising a bunch of delicate petals who must be shielded at all costs from bad hurty words.</i><br /><br />Tell that to your loyalist friends and come back and tell the Quill what they think. <a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-68753084924506348062021-07-07T07:27:12.598+01:002021-07-07T07:27:12.598+01:00I think Pete is hitting the grey area between the ...I think Pete is hitting the grey area between the black and white that makes for lazy characterisation. Black and white might make the world easy to read but it hardly helps us to live in it. <br />This piece highlights the nuance and contradictory strain in people and invites reflection on the one size fits all method of addressing them. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23578081422946621722021-07-07T06:29:47.116+01:002021-07-07T06:29:47.116+01:00I think what may have once been popular will not a...I think what may have once been popular will not as our tastes, standards or knowledge develope. Steve is right about censorship under the cloak of woke/pc. Take the once popular sitcom The Cosby Show which I once enjoyed... it just does not have the same appeal that it once had now that we know Cosby was a sexual predator. Likewise with Dr Seuss... the author of the article discloses that he Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-65364086412120311142021-07-06T22:23:08.977+01:002021-07-06T22:23:08.977+01:00The good Professor might need a safe space to thin...The good Professor might need a safe space to think things over in, and can I suggest he read's Orwell's 1984 and pay particular attention to the constant erasing and rewriting of history in that world and what the outcome was. The problem with today's society isn't "woke" or "conservative" people, it's raising a bunch of delicate petals who must be Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.com