tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post1725365435015246479..comments2024-03-29T06:51:03.388+00:00Comments on TPQ: Anthony McIntyre Address At Duleek Hungerstrike Monument AnniversaryAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-46318639224405951902018-08-09T07:55:18.384+01:002018-08-09T07:55:18.384+01:00Peter,
as AM says there's not an awful lot of...Peter,<br /><br />as AM says there's not an awful lot of interest down here as such but he's also correct about 50% + 1. As a 'no deal Brexit' becomes more likely support for unification will grow. It will also garner support in large measure from Europe. <br /><br />When circumstance arise where the NI Secretary of State moves a new referendum and should it be passed up there, Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-7115846286810678262018-08-08T08:19:05.745+01:002018-08-08T08:19:05.745+01:00HJ
Yes let's hope reason prevails. My comments...HJ<br />Yes let's hope reason prevails. My comments before were pre Brexit when a UI was unlikely, now the reality is that it's a distinct possibility. As reality bites for unionists so it does for southerners. I was in Kerry last month on holiday and one FG supporter said they didn't want us because they can't afford us. Taxes will have to go up and British money will be requiredPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-3206387381340849742018-08-07T20:31:07.366+01:002018-08-07T20:31:07.366+01:00Henry Joy,
the GFA is codified in such a way that...Henry Joy,<br /><br />the GFA is codified in such a way that it will exist after unity and the British will still have an involvement. It will be much like the federalism of O'Bradaigh but with a large measure of British input. <br /><br />The GFA is not the antithesis of unionism or constitutionalism but of coercive republicanism. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87653410459931947272018-08-07T09:13:50.527+01:002018-08-07T09:13:50.527+01:00Peter,
I believe you'd do well to heed Peter ...Peter,<br /><br />I believe you'd do well to heed Peter Robinson's advice and keep your insurance premium up to date. Though I've often referenced Southern chattering classes' antipathy to anything Northern I can't envisage the electorate down here rejecting unification. Though privately there may be a modicum of aversion to unity among them, I believe, they will find Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90948960258562392722018-08-07T05:39:31.754+01:002018-08-07T05:39:31.754+01:00Pater,
Fintan O'Toole thinks that as well.
...Pater, <br /><br />Fintan O'Toole thinks that as well. <br /><br />I think they will reach it, not that there is a lot of interest in it down here. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-8186549189095589142018-08-06T22:48:10.085+01:002018-08-06T22:48:10.085+01:00I've been Bush for awhile and trying to catch ...I've been Bush for awhile and trying to catch up, has any progress been made on a border solution post Brexit? Nobody from either side wanted a hard border last time I checked? Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-68056239117048423432018-08-06T20:54:36.252+01:002018-08-06T20:54:36.252+01:00AM
Though I am not against a UI like I used to be ...AM<br />Though I am not against a UI like I used to be I still think it won't be easy to reach 50%+1 in the south due to cost and security issues. I think a lot of folk would baulk at the thought of paying for and policing the north and FG are predictably luke warm. It would interesting to hear other southern commentators thoughts.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-74862276092837189822018-08-06T19:07:21.013+01:002018-08-06T19:07:21.013+01:00JBC
yeah, that quote nails my current position.
...JBC<br /><br />yeah, that quote nails my current position. <br /><br />Thanks.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81186667580755886282018-08-06T16:54:25.896+01:002018-08-06T16:54:25.896+01:00Peter, there does need to be a poll in the South w...Peter, there does need to be a poll in the South which also requires 50% + 1. That outcome can only be effective if a majority in the North agree: otherwise the referendum in the South has no binding effect. <br /><br /> AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-33167381540377212122018-08-06T11:22:03.738+01:002018-08-06T11:22:03.738+01:00Does there not need to be a poll in the 26 first?Does there not need to be a poll in the 26 first?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-76270719129101741962018-08-06T10:30:06.850+01:002018-08-06T10:30:06.850+01:00Barry,
that might well be true but the GFA allows...Barry,<br /><br />that might well be true but the GFA allows for nothing else.AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50509440132743124412018-08-06T10:09:12.345+01:002018-08-06T10:09:12.345+01:00AM
I agree with you on the factuality of the GFA....AM<br /><br />I agree with you on the factuality of the GFA. It is just that a majority of 50% + 1 on any matter of constitutional change (think of Brexit for example) is a recipe for future inter-communal conflict.Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49714815848593419862018-08-06T07:50:30.431+01:002018-08-06T07:50:30.431+01:00Barry,
that is not correct. Under the terms of th...Barry,<br /><br />that is not correct. Under the terms of the GFA a majority is required @ 50% + 1, not a super majority. The same as is required to stay within the union. Anything else creates minority rule. Some might find that aspect of the international treaty frightening and potentially destabilising as alluded to by MLM but that is what it is. Beyond the Border: The Good Friday Agreement AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62494902950701299522018-08-06T00:09:56.293+01:002018-08-06T00:09:56.293+01:00JBC
The answer to your question is that there can...JBC<br /><br />The answer to your question is that there can only be a United Ireland with the consent of a super-majority of the people of Northern Ireland. A failed quarter-century of armed struggle trying to coerce a million people who did not desire such an outcome surely taught you that lesson.Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-82087089663834821092018-08-04T09:05:19.152+01:002018-08-04T09:05:19.152+01:00and right on cue along comes henry with his outrag...and right on cue along comes henry with his outrageously condescending pompous prose. thanks henry for another good laugh this morning. sadly, this site is becoming an echo-chamber of west brit liberal pseudo intellectualism with a good dose of toxic anti-religious bigotry thrown in. as for desert islands and nunnerys- - id thrive in both whereas u and gilhooly would eat each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-37997387902146810782018-08-04T08:44:31.897+01:002018-08-04T08:44:31.897+01:00JBC,
senior moment on my behalf ... as AM suggest...JBC,<br /><br />senior moment on my behalf ... as AM suggests the comment wasn't directed at you.<br />I had been following "Vichy Essence" thread also when I posted that comment and somehow conflated both. The comment was directed at 'grouch'.<br /><br />I'll leave Barry G. to respond to your question should he choose to but from his commentary on these matters to date Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-21011528701760929992018-08-04T05:55:50.650+01:002018-08-04T05:55:50.650+01:00JBC,
uplifting as always when we find that people...JBC,<br /><br />uplifting as always when we find that people get something from TPQ.<br /><br /><a href="link" rel="nofollow">http://thepensivequill.am/2013/02/bates-and-wilkes-central.html</a> is a slot we use for those who abuse the site - it gets used as a matter of course for the witchdoctor types but also for people who abuse. TPQ appreciates ideas no matter how obnoxious and acknowledges AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45236631774672719352018-08-03T11:04:17.430+01:002018-08-03T11:04:17.430+01:00grouch,
as endearing and witty as your ripostes s...grouch,<br /><br />as endearing and witty as your ripostes sometimes are, you still seem devoid of the co-operative underpinnings required for life in civil society. As the world becomes more global then the social contract becomes even more complex. Alas, and for whatever reason, much of that is currently beyond your capacity.<br /><br />A desert island or a nunnery for you then so.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41785833722877507912018-08-02T22:19:18.501+01:002018-08-02T22:19:18.501+01:00anthony, i win my arguments quoting myself, not ir...anthony, i win my arguments quoting myself, not irrelevant dead nerds. also - barry never won an argument in his life. personally, ive more time for the lads in wilkes and bates than the pseuds of the media/academia axis who piss all over this site with their outrageously condescending pompous prose and neurotic psycho-babble. and id wager that 99 out of 100 readers of this site would rather beAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-44730320966579920812018-08-02T21:14:38.516+01:002018-08-02T21:14:38.516+01:00Thanks Henry Joy.
I think we will make more use o...Thanks Henry Joy.<br /><br />I think we will make more use of the Bates & Wilkes slotAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-26305814621667377082018-08-02T21:10:04.328+01:002018-08-02T21:10:04.328+01:00AM,
moderation by flagging vacuous insults, witho...AM,<br /><br />moderation by flagging vacuous insults, without actually censoring them, might encourage more focused and useful exchanges.<br /><br />(I enjoyed reading your address at Duleek; a vignette of life in the Blocks during the harshest days of protest conveying the intense tedium endured and the depth and longevity of connections forged between comrades).Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87974999001619434492018-08-02T20:30:29.507+01:002018-08-02T20:30:29.507+01:00Henry Joy,
ad hominem is usually a filler for the...Henry Joy,<br /><br />ad hominem is usually a filler for the gaps in an argument. I always think of Elbert Hubbard's quip "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names." Barry so often wins the day with so little effort because of the insults. The above discussion has been mild by comparison. <br /><br />TPQ will probably move to AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-54277971034587887412018-08-02T09:13:02.830+01:002018-08-02T09:13:02.830+01:00sorry henry joy, but barry dusnt listen to saddoes...sorry henry joy, but barry dusnt listen to saddoes skulking behind monikers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49488435287134086972018-08-01T15:41:09.488+01:002018-08-01T15:41:09.488+01:00u wudnt know etiquette if it bit u on the arse.u wudnt know etiquette if it bit u on the arse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-34992732025734992662018-08-01T14:50:28.630+01:002018-08-01T14:50:28.630+01:00Barry
pass no heed to the ad hominem ... for alth...Barry<br /><br />pass no heed to the ad hominem ... for although it is rarely a conscious choice, comforting lies and distortions are always easier swallowed than hard truths.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.com