tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post6471443921002939094..comments2024-03-29T06:51:03.388+00:00Comments on TPQ: Censorship or Protecting Society? AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57629671210961292142014-08-29T15:38:16.668+01:002014-08-29T15:38:16.668+01:00Pauline
In truth I can't definitively say whe...Pauline<br /><br />In truth I can't definitively say where the line, between the right to free speech, and the right of society to protect itself, lays.<br /><br />Both are rights, both need to be weighed into our deliberations on this.<br /><br />At the moment it seems that my deliberations lead me to a point that differs from yours. I respect the fact that you have deliberated somewhat on Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-47604154190308486872014-08-29T11:12:15.423+01:002014-08-29T11:12:15.423+01:00Henry,
socialisation is a term used by sociologist...Henry,<br /><i>socialisation is a term used by sociologists, social psychologists, anthropologists, political scientists and educationalists to describe how peoples come to hold the values they hold. It considers family of origin, community, religious and educational influences.</i><br /><br />In the real world (the rock that's the third from the sun), everyone else call's it life frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-28688327031626717702014-08-29T09:39:04.279+01:002014-08-29T09:39:04.279+01:00yip without doubt Henry Joy a cara if your granny ...yip without doubt Henry Joy a cara if your granny had balls she would have been a wheelbarrowmartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42174193595772815472014-08-29T06:53:36.759+01:002014-08-29T06:53:36.759+01:00Frankie
socialisation is a term used by sociologi...Frankie<br /><br />socialisation is a term used by sociologists, social psychologists, anthropologists, political scientists and educationalists to refer to the lifelong process of inheriting and disseminating norms, customs and ideologies, providing an individual with the skills and habits necessary for participating within his or her own society. Socialization is thus ‘the means by which socialHenry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-55844315182471284442014-08-28T23:06:38.585+01:002014-08-28T23:06:38.585+01:00Henry Joy
The title was of my own choosing a an...Henry Joy<br /><br /><br /><br />The title was of my own choosing a and is in reference to the ambiguity around the Public provocation to commit a terrorist offence law in the South of Ireland and the proposed legislation in Britain to Curtail the word of radical preachers who currently exercise their right to free speech without breaking any laws. <br /><br />I totally respect your right to a Pauline Mellonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00498649662427729432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19394073926965873122014-08-28T17:25:01.377+01:002014-08-28T17:25:01.377+01:00That said though I have always had my words publis...<i>That said though I have always had my words published and voice heard any-time I have offered my opinions in the various media forms mentioned. ..I'd be curious to know if yours have.</i><br /><br />Not all the time. Sometimes I've had things pulled that I put online because someone, somewhere thought something like "You can't have free thought.. you must comply with our rulesfrankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-33003944819760722162014-08-28T17:16:58.451+01:002014-08-28T17:16:58.451+01:00Pauline the headline to your article reads; Censor...Pauline the headline to your article reads; Censorship Or Protecting Society?<br /><br />I realise that this byline may be the editor's but that's what shows up on my screen ... your article only presents one side of that implied debate. My comments and opinions address that imbalance.<br /><br />I fully respect your right to your opinion as I hope you can respect my right to differ.<br /Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-8554440047435006772014-08-28T14:16:46.807+01:002014-08-28T14:16:46.807+01:00I like you Frankie understand the limitations you ...I like you Frankie understand the limitations you draw attention to. I acknowledge and respect all you've mentioned in this regard. <br />Indeed it's implicit in my last post (published at the same time as our last one).<br /><br />That said though I have always had my words published and voice heard any-time I have offered my opinions in the various media forms mentioned. <br />Though I Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89635805610772476482014-08-28T13:57:11.340+01:002014-08-28T13:57:11.340+01:00Henry,
Here is a true story about a comment I mad...Henry,<br /><br />Here is a true story about a comment I made on an online forum recently that was 'pulled'...<br /><br />I asked one question as joke.. If I wanted to make rabbit stew would it be cheaper to go to the butchers or the pet shop..<br /><br />If you want to think there is freedom of speech and comments aren't moderated then you are free to think that way. frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42734534142414342342014-08-28T12:25:12.286+01:002014-08-28T12:25:12.286+01:00I am free to express and develop my opinions in on...<i>I am free to express and develop my opinions in on-line forums, I am free to write blogs and e-books. <b>I am free to write to local, regional and national newspapers</b>.</i><br /><br />Henry, you may be free to write what you want to an online forum but that doesn't mean your views will be carried. It depends on the person behind the online forum if what you say will be carried, not frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-5505686233894673142014-08-28T11:49:58.677+01:002014-08-28T11:49:58.677+01:00Marty in July of the year 2000 I waited on the sou...Marty in July of the year 2000 I waited on the southern side of the border for my Da and Ma to arrive across to collect my daughter and bring her north for a visit.<br /><br />As was her way my mother had some of her home-made bread and a few other gifts. She also had the previous evening's Belfast Telegraph. The front page of the Telegraph was entirely given over to coverage of the release Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90777048653129239392014-08-28T10:03:27.011+01:002014-08-28T10:03:27.011+01:00Henry Joy
These freedoms you speak of are under t...Henry Joy<br /><br />These freedoms you speak of are under threat. At present we are all aware that with freedom of speech comes responsibility, hence your use of a pseudonym. These new and proposed measures will no doubt see an increase in the use of pseudonyms with more people airing on the side of caution for fear of legislation or standing over an opinion as opposed to just for personal or Pauline Mellonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00498649662427729432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-27464058955252002032014-08-28T08:15:07.503+01:002014-08-28T08:15:07.503+01:00Henry Joy well a cara we survived the catholic chu...Henry Joy well a cara we survived the catholic church..you need to remember the old saying that "when those who make the law break the law .then there is no law"I did not say "we cant think or express our opinions freely"(sigh) I referred you to the recent case of Leo Green Head ex honcho in quisling $inn £eind and his successful case against that party over holding an martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-79178501091057933502014-08-27T21:19:01.744+01:002014-08-27T21:19:01.744+01:00Marty I don't know what oppressive weight bear...Marty I don't know what oppressive weight bears down on you but I certainly am free to choose my own thoughts. Not only am I free to think I am free to access a plethora of resources that support me in developing my critical skills at minimal cost as compared to previous generations.<br /><br />I am free to express and develop my opinions in on-line forums, I am free to write blogs and Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-52980907573127861762014-08-27T16:59:28.935+01:002014-08-27T16:59:28.935+01:00Henry Joy you have to be a wind up merchant ,using...Henry Joy you have to be a wind up merchant ,using the pseudonym of a man who knew the meaning of freedom and give his life fighting repressive legislation and subjugation,which as you probably know legislation is a prominent tool in the arsenal of those who would keep us subjugated,in all its forms freedom to think,to hold an opinion and to express that opinion is being eroded by the year with martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-20149461666469795632014-08-27T10:18:13.548+01:002014-08-27T10:18:13.548+01:00Pauline as Russell says in some of his essays an o...Pauline as Russell says in some of his essays an opposition is essential for social cohesion. It's only through open exchange and challenges that soome sort of consensual position is reached.<br /><br />Marty it's difficult achieve or maintain freedoms in the absence of legislation. You say we need more freedom and less legislation ... more freedom from what? ... more freedom to do what?Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-12361772899376383132014-08-26T15:46:23.655+01:002014-08-26T15:46:23.655+01:00Henry Joy
I feel it is important that we ask the...Henry Joy<br /><br /> I feel it is important that we ask these questions and raise concerns given the ambiguity around the new and proposed measures. That said I suspect these measures will entail a test case in the ECHR before we are any better informed. <br /><br />As you know yourself ignorance of law is not considered a reasonable excuse which is why we must seek clarity on these issues. Pauline Mellonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00498649662427729432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-56505067206338410122014-08-26T14:26:23.480+01:002014-08-26T14:26:23.480+01:00Scary stuff Pauline a cara and here I ,d like to ...Scary stuff Pauline a cara and here I ,d like to refer Henry Joy to that powerful book by Ian Cobain Cruel Britannia,the very idea of a further erosion of our already diminished human rights should make anyone with any sense fear for the future,once enacted these new powers will be stretched to the limit and saying anything outside the permitted thought will result in lock down be it in your ownmartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814904389826171437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-85791883958099868342014-08-26T08:04:46.841+01:002014-08-26T08:04:46.841+01:00What did the DUP expect at the Ardoyne Fleadh... ...What did the DUP expect at the Ardoyne Fleadh... For <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7Z41VQlbc" rel="nofollow"> The Druids to sing God save the Queen</a>? <br /><br />What I'd really like (but wont happen) is for a spook or serving Garda/PSNI officer to set up a profile on TPQ and explain to myself this new law about recruiting 'home grown terrorists' include the frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-66435080450847500582014-08-26T07:23:46.026+01:002014-08-26T07:23:46.026+01:00I like you Pauline was involved in the campaign to...I like you Pauline was involved in the campaign to have Marian McGlinchey released from custody; attending public meetings, attending public vigils and lobying elected representatives. <br />I don't foresee the proposed legislation restricting similar such campaigns for as long as those involved adhete to peaceful and lawful methods. <br /><br />Since so many in Ireland have been wooed in Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-63306306872036464592014-08-25T22:15:51.933+01:002014-08-25T22:15:51.933+01:00That new law.. What'll they do is water it dow...That new law.. What'll they do is water it down a little, similar to the secret evidence law that today can be used to take kids away from parents because some social worker got out of the wrong side of the bed and wrote a report in anger..<br /><br />Anyhow soon they'll water it down so sites like yours and TPQ wont be allowed to voice dissent or question the powers that be..<br /><br />frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.com