tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post5428305453064382982..comments2024-03-28T17:44:07.653+00:00Comments on TPQ: Five Crucial PointsAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19378224018103570112009-06-07T23:33:25.280+01:002009-06-07T23:33:25.280+01:00I was not sure Anthony, though I have no problem i...I was not sure Anthony, though I have no problem in admitting I am wrong. I think I was just past hearing the "he said, she said" and after reading my own post I could see the word speculation was not explained based on my use.<br />Considering there are those better politically versed than myself one word can indeed change the course of a point.<br />There is a great difference betweenTain Bohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231714879648243251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50426434542238061322009-06-07T20:33:45.115+01:002009-06-07T20:33:45.115+01:00Tain Bo, your post was fine and I had no criticism...Tain Bo, your post was fine and I had no criticisms to make of it. It was just an opportunity to raise some points of my own. I doubt if you offended anyone with your comment on speculation. I know what you mean - just as I know what Sean Mor means when he says he wishes the debate had never seen the light of day. Point is, it is here - both the debate and speculation - and there is no putting AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-31275445540663756392009-06-07T20:18:46.380+01:002009-06-07T20:18:46.380+01:00AM said...
Tain Bo, I can only put it out as I see...AM said...<br />Tain Bo, I can only put it out as I see it at any given moment and the sentiment expressed in it could change if there is evidence that comes along to show it to be off the mark.<br />A.M.<br />Addressing my comment on “speculation” I should have been clearer regarding my thought and should state it was based on speaking with a small number of people. For their own reasons tend toTain Bohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231714879648243251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62657148932748219472009-06-07T08:55:50.322+01:002009-06-07T08:55:50.322+01:00Tain Bo, I can only put it out as I see it at any ...Tain Bo, I can only put it out as I see it at any given moment and the sentiment expressed in it could change if there is evidence that comes along to show it to be off the mark. Speculation will always be present in the debate - it is how people think things through. But speculation is about placing dots on the map. Quite often we see dots and forget that they are not joined up and speculation AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-56682133095733590012009-06-06T23:37:39.016+01:002009-06-06T23:37:39.016+01:00A very well worded article of course some may argu...A very well worded article of course some may argue different giving the subject matter and the well established sides on the issue.<br />I at first did not believe anyone would betray the prisoners which in turn would not be an objective opinion but one based on old loyalty.<br />As the debate continues it becomes clear the only way to read or hear the matter is without bias.<br />Reading the Tain Bohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231714879648243251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-59286783525217067192009-06-06T18:47:20.897+01:002009-06-06T18:47:20.897+01:00Willie G, this is the problem - they have told us ...Willie G, this is the problem - they have told us so much over the years which was completely untrue that they have become instinctively unbelievable. I would like to believe them but would be daft to take them at face value. Everything they say has to be validated by some other evidence.AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-39654475192384427732009-06-06T18:33:13.910+01:002009-06-06T18:33:13.910+01:00''The full hunger strike story is beginnin...''The full hunger strike story is beginning to dawn, whether any of us try to put our hands over our ears or not.''<br /><br />Indeed it is Kate and as Carrie pointed out the debate is now moving to the rejection of the prisoner's acceptance by the 'kitchen cabinet.' PSF are preparing the ground work by claiming what was needed was a british official to stand over the Willie G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11475650752781629117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81925804627350698932009-06-06T18:12:59.249+01:002009-06-06T18:12:59.249+01:00Kathy, I think there is always a temptation to wri...Kathy, I think there is always a temptation to write the past from the perspective of the present and transfer emotions we have now to another place and time. So, I am very cautious about that. The British offer looks enough from today's point of view but then there was a lot of emotion and steel like determination amongst the prisoners. In a recent conversation with somebody at the heart ofAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15024693144530104912009-06-06T17:20:22.830+01:002009-06-06T17:20:22.830+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kate.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16867796422714332491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-56693664279621840342009-06-06T11:38:39.913+01:002009-06-06T11:38:39.913+01:00''However what is not in dispute, is that ...''However what is not in dispute, is that if there was a deal on the on the table it should have been presented to the Hunger Strikers and they should have been the ones to deceide if it should have been accepted or not. The leadership had no right to take that decision away from them.''<br /><br />It's a bit worse than that Kathy and if you go to the link Carrie provided you Willie G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11475650752781629117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-18021951512949311412009-06-06T01:31:06.407+01:002009-06-06T01:31:06.407+01:00I have always believed Richard O'Rawe's ac...I have always believed Richard O'Rawe's account of the events and am disgusted by the fact that Sinn Fein and the Republican Leadership chose to lie and set about discrediting Richard O'Rawe. <br /><br />But I also find myself wondering, if the truth had been told to the Hunger Strikers would they really have agreed to deal. I would never presume to know what any of the Hunger Kathy Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940879547664559244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41761260494308352202009-06-05T14:52:48.776+01:002009-06-05T14:52:48.776+01:00I wasn't being rude Kate. I'm sure there a...I wasn't being rude Kate. I'm sure there are alot of people out there who think that this would never happen in a western society but this is Northern Ireland. It's a murky place!John Kennedy Cartoonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09572022383142124521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49207314605935942502009-06-05T14:21:44.288+01:002009-06-05T14:21:44.288+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kate.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16867796422714332491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-80461443394005788902009-06-05T13:37:29.757+01:002009-06-05T13:37:29.757+01:00Take the blinkers off Kate!Take the blinkers off Kate!John Kennedy Cartoonisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09572022383142124521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-6143952697693086072009-06-05T10:00:56.772+01:002009-06-05T10:00:56.772+01:00Kate, Bik's new statement has been discussed o...Kate, Bik's new statement has been discussed on Slugger O'Toole: <br /><br /><a href="http://sluggerotoole.com/index.php/weblog/comments/this-is-a-huge-opportunity-and-i-feel-theres-a-potential-here-to-end-this" rel="nofollow">“This is a huge opportunity and I feel there’s a potential here to end this”</a><br /><br />Basic points is he's completely changed his tune from total denial namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04142526875463699805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19478760571372662952009-06-05T00:20:58.389+01:002009-06-05T00:20:58.389+01:00Has the document which Liam Clarke produced on the...Has the document which Liam Clarke produced on the night been placed in the public arena yet, by PA I mean on the internet of in published form.Organized Rage.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07627288401631451362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-78942197758306696092009-06-04T21:58:38.135+01:002009-06-04T21:58:38.135+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kate.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16867796422714332491noreply@blogger.com