tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post4997148164051992473..comments2024-03-28T17:44:07.653+00:00Comments on TPQ: "Boots and Belts to Bombs and Bullets: From Tartan to Terror in the Early 70'AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-30752092599492030622019-02-21T22:40:37.786+00:002019-02-21T22:40:37.786+00:00'Murphys' that kicked with the other foot ...'Murphys' that kicked with the other foot were what was known in many parts of the country as "soupers". I remember a few years back staying in a run-down hotel at the back of Achill Island and on the Saturday evening another drinker very gently pointing out that the majority of the other local clientele that evening were Protestants. There were probably 'Murphys' among Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-35396445225193827952019-02-21T22:22:50.806+00:002019-02-21T22:22:50.806+00:00Steve R,
Dillon did indeed promote that theory, e...Steve R,<br /><br />Dillon did indeed promote that theory, even though Steve Bruce debunked it. As Balaclava Street notes: "This is a classic piece of amateur psychology and one for which there is no real supporting evidence. Murphy is a faintly uncommon name amongst Protestants but it is not unusual by any means. A glance at a list of UVF prisoners in Long Kesh from the 1970s reveals plentyChristopher Owenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05236891604706531905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-53303509319707526002019-02-21T20:40:12.353+00:002019-02-21T20:40:12.353+00:00HJ,
I remember speaking to Loyalists back around ...HJ,<br /><br />I remember speaking to Loyalists back around 1990, their brutal justification then was ' one in three vote for Sinn Fein and the other two are sympathisers'. The reason why Loyalists embarked upon their MO of mass shootings was 'to get the taigs to squeal so much they tell the Provos to stop'.<br /><br />This much was alluded to by David Ervine during an interview Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-84011322470161125242019-02-21T07:21:33.191+00:002019-02-21T07:21:33.191+00:00Steve,
thanks for the link.
It is indeed an inte...Steve,<br /><br />thanks for the link. <br />It is indeed an interesting read and does give a weight of sorts to what appeared to me as justifications for the Loyalist terror tactic of <i>'Any Taig Will Do'</i>. <br />Mind you, the 'Sinn Féin Oath' mentioned in the article, which by the way I had never heard of or seen before, which if widely disseminated and swallowed whole Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-21695720744069742782019-02-20T20:24:37.436+00:002019-02-20T20:24:37.436+00:00HJ,
Perhaps its better left to a former Provo the...HJ,<br /><br />Perhaps its better left to a former Provo themselves to illustrate my point. Shane Paul O'Doherty penned a quite informative piece on his blog regarding this very issue. This is what i am referring to.<br /><br />https://irishpeaceprocess.blog/2017/11/02/catholic-priests-and-the-ira/<br /><br />You will find no argument from me regarding.."The terror campaign carried out Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81750808523013187222019-02-20T08:22:46.509+00:002019-02-20T08:22:46.509+00:00Steve
try a full-stop after "No real distinc...Steve<br /><br />try a full-stop after "No real distinction was made between 'Catholic' civilians and the IRA": otherwise give some examples please to back up your claims of the RC Church sheltering Provo's and more than one substantiated allegation of priests being active in the armed struggle.<br /><br />The terror campaign carried out by loyalists paramilitaries with oft Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14776052957178847242019-02-19T00:19:07.970+00:002019-02-19T00:19:07.970+00:00We always felt beseiged, under attack and with the...We always felt beseiged, under attack and with the grim belief that the British would stab us in the back. To us, the IRA was very much in the ascendancy both in capability of operation and sophisticated PR machine on the international scene. No real distinction was made between 'Catholic' civilians and the IRA- due to the shelter the RC church gave the Provo's and the occasional Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-29809683484597932482019-02-09T09:22:32.026+00:002019-02-09T09:22:32.026+00:00I don't think anyone, even the loyalists thems...I don't think anyone, even the loyalists themselves, would deny the cold blooded sectarian behaviour they carried out. The 'defensive stance' is quite easy to understand: despite being viewed with contempt by Stormont, ordinary working class loyalists saw the state of NI as their own. The IRA were determined to destroy it. Hence the defensive stance. Christopher Owenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05236891604706531905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-13303918373451625182019-02-09T00:46:45.576+00:002019-02-09T00:46:45.576+00:00Niall
at a visceral level my initial responses ar...Niall<br /><br />at a visceral level my initial responses are very much similar to those you've expressed. Yes, for a long time Unionism was at its heart a supremacist ideology. Though on reflection, I'd propose that tendency has softened somewhat and even been relinquished in some quarters. But its also true that a shadow lingers on in other quarters too.<br /><br />The reasons for this Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-8022864598601776702019-02-08T12:33:11.006+00:002019-02-08T12:33:11.006+00:00Hutchinson and his cronies inflicted the same and ...Hutchinson and his cronies inflicted the same and much worse physical torture on Taigs when they got the chance and this cold blooded sectarian racist behaviour seemed to be par for the course among them....it is hard to understand their 'defensive stance' separate from that.<br />As much a kin to understanding the KKK killing of black people in America as a stand against perceived Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.com