tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post2719758154033562446..comments2024-03-29T10:10:03.288+00:00Comments on TPQ: Radicalisation RubbishAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-52670660105490100852019-06-02T19:27:09.850+01:002019-06-02T19:27:09.850+01:00As a 26 County resident I will add that rather tha...As a 26 County resident I will add that rather than there being no discussion around a UI there is little mainstream discussion. In the unquantifiable realms of general public debate I can tell you that I talk about it constantly and there are some like minded people in my regular path, so in my eyesight there is some regular offline discussion and its all positive in terms of a UI. We have read Patrick Mooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912745948523790308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-56587348647781871262019-05-30T17:12:07.961+01:002019-05-30T17:12:07.961+01:00It is quite clear the people of the 6 definitely d...It is quite clear the people of the 6 definitely do not want in any shape or form the politics of Britain dictating their families futures, rees mogg, Gove, Javid- listen and take note- th Conservative Party canidate got 662 votes in the recent European election in the 6, Dissident Republican Gary Donnelly got more , thats more, than double, thats double this vote.<br /><br />In an official pollAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03081247318799307730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89093449157113928812019-05-30T09:07:32.408+01:002019-05-30T09:07:32.408+01:00Frankie, billions of people talk of either Allah, ...Frankie, billions of people talk of either Allah, Yahweh or some other God. They aspire for a 'life after death' but none of that makes of itself for an absolute truth. <br />Similarly, just because talk of a United Ireland is more prevalent doesn't necessarily mean that its a given.<br /><br />Should it ever come about Mallon's prognosis is the most likely path to a United Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15865076230211317792019-05-30T06:50:09.154+01:002019-05-30T06:50:09.154+01:00Steve - there is not the slightest interest detect...Steve - there is not the slightest interest detectable in it down here. Most people have it as a preference but they always have. Their attitude towards it is probably the same as it is towards the environment. They prefer rather than want change and will balk at higher taxes to secure it. Conor Cruise O'Brien, playing on the Frank Kitson book, called it a Low Intensity Aspiration. I think heAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81690330848370906362019-05-30T05:59:06.702+01:002019-05-30T05:59:06.702+01:00"The reason why they haven't gone away is..."The reason why they haven't gone away is a complete failure of the GFA and partition.. the same reason 11 & 12 yr olds are disenfranchised and angry enough to throw petrol bombs at the police who have no involvement with republican's, dissident or otherwise"<br /><br />Not sure many 11 year olds would understand the political nuances Frankie, I'd hazard a guess and say Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-37346605182764232782019-05-29T18:55:25.436+01:002019-05-29T18:55:25.436+01:00Steve/Henry,
So you both believe no one is either...Steve/Henry,<br /><br />So you both believe no one is either talking about or wanting a United Ireland. It is one of the main topics of conversation on TPQ and you both are talking about the non merits of a UI here, so to say no one is talking about it is wrong.<br /><br />A few weeks ago <a href="http://www.thepensivequill.com/2019/05/why-theres-still-support-for-dissident.html" rel="nofollow"> frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50806913921769556132019-05-29T18:51:48.117+01:002019-05-29T18:51:48.117+01:00Steve on your last point...All you have to do is l...Steve on your last point...All you have to do is look at the recent election results and see who gained and who didn't.. We know neither the DUP or SF vote didn't increase..UU are a beaten docket. As for North Belfast, I walk the streets everyday and I see the poverty, lack of investment, the point on suicide rates..I seen up close an personal in the Sandy Row for over two years how bad frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-10459992976401346452019-05-29T00:22:05.349+01:002019-05-29T00:22:05.349+01:00Frankie,
your comparisons with Palestine and Sout...Frankie,<br /><br />your comparisons with Palestine and South Africa are stretching it. Yes, sections of the population in Derry as elsewhere are marginalised. They are now mostly disadvantaged by poverty rather than by excessive political discrimination as existed in the past. There's significant differences between those two positions. Its almost an insult to Palestinians to compare their Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-65686822094021713542019-05-28T22:23:41.200+01:002019-05-28T22:23:41.200+01:00The Shankill, Woodvale and Ardoyne are also in pov...The Shankill, Woodvale and Ardoyne are also in poverty Frankie, and suicide rates are staggering across the board. Not sure we can lay the blame totally on the GFA, I for one certainly lay the blame for late end stage Capitalism at the door of the Tories with their austerity measures for everyone but themselves.<br /><br />But I agree, total failure of local politics creates a vacuum and nature Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89271510038622348692019-05-28T12:59:19.171+01:002019-05-28T12:59:19.171+01:00Henry/Steve,
Let's take Dee and Saoradh out o...Henry/Steve,<br /><br />Let's take Dee and Saoradh out of the equation. Why do teenagers become radicalized in Palestine? Do you think it is because of Hamas or Israeli policy directed at Palestinians? Same in South Africa, was it the ANC who radicalized teenagers or apartheid? Who radicalized young and old wear yellow vests in France, civil rights marches in the 1960's in the USA, frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90260980368066800262019-05-21T23:58:43.388+01:002019-05-21T23:58:43.388+01:00HJ,
Spot on. As Anthony said, there's no disc...HJ,<br /><br />Spot on. As Anthony said, there's no discussion in the south regarding a UI either. But that's not to say we shouldn't increase and strengthen bonds between the people on the island for both our benefit. I'm completely opposed to a hard border for this reason. But the Dee's of this world are living in the 70's and 80's.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-84363298149794532992019-05-20T23:14:56.247+01:002019-05-20T23:14:56.247+01:00Frankie
the 'Dee Fennell's' can conti...Frankie<br /><br />the 'Dee Fennell's' can continue what they're at but the harsh truth is that they ain't going anywhere politically. They're enmeshed in a failed and outdated tradition of resistance. They're attempting the impossible. They're promulgating an implausible political message, advocating for an improbable dream. They're deluded idealists chasing Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58089928575408584802019-05-20T20:25:16.091+01:002019-05-20T20:25:16.091+01:00Seamus mallon tells us the ballot box is not the w...Seamus mallon tells us the ballot box is not the way to realising Republican political aspirations, something Bertie Ahern another architect of the "PROCESS" said years ago.<br /><br />James Mc Clean is branded "divisive" for refusing to honour the people who would use the body parts of a murder victim as an ashtray.<br /><br />Reality is the British state and those who would Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15347888870144122998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45675136609547447112019-05-20T20:08:53.902+01:002019-05-20T20:08:53.902+01:00Young Fennell has been in more groups than Roy Woo...Young Fennell has been in more groups than Roy Wood. At least Wood had some success with each. If dee was a singer (not in Castlereagh) his Cds would be found in the bargain bucket at Asda rather than lining the shelves of, forward thinking, youth culture. Yesterdays man indeed! Emmett Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03761525073488146105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15091935810490021612019-05-20T14:19:26.105+01:002019-05-20T14:19:26.105+01:00Can someone explain to me where do they think the ...Can someone explain to me where do they think the 'Dee Fennel's' of this island are meant to go..? I have read the piece several times and I personally find it flawless...<br /><br />That aside, I left the island for the best part of 30yrs..today I am back in my old stomping ground and found more oxymoron's (peacelines) to navigate around, sectarianism is on the rise, more young frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58101736057330170922019-05-19T22:27:01.046+01:002019-05-19T22:27:01.046+01:00TLDR; Dee Fennell admits that Sinn Fein/Republican...TLDR; Dee Fennell admits that Sinn Fein/Republican youth groups were set up for the sole reaon of rioting.<br /><br />". I joined Sinn Féin Youth in late 1996 at the age of 14. Locally, our SFY cumann was established simply by changing the name of a local republican youth organisation made up of children that was established in the summer of 1996 by the Republican Movement in Ardoyne. The Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32042636878570242102019-05-19T21:29:06.545+01:002019-05-19T21:29:06.545+01:00While I don’t remember the exact year, I recall th...While I don’t remember the exact year, I recall the shooting down of a planned petrol bomb attack on Balfour Avenue, Lower Ormeau, during the period referred to (it was a summer in the ‘90s when protests against Orange marches were in full swing). Readied for launching, with a full plan in place regards from where and what houses and alleys would be used as the escape route, local command orderedSean Bresnahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842180620284317746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-13790950775965293602019-05-19T16:16:35.477+01:002019-05-19T16:16:35.477+01:00Great respect for Dee and spot on with everything ...Great respect for Dee and spot on with everything he said, well said Dee.Regan Mc Shanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15782256045930521571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-8760589328202545442019-05-19T08:50:02.451+01:002019-05-19T08:50:02.451+01:00No manifestation of Irish Republicanism has succee...No manifestation of Irish Republicanism has succeeded totally. Each has either compromised or suffered defeat; those who fail to compromise become marginalised, largely irrelevant in the mainstream and eventually an embarrassment if not to themselves, to those who previously subscribed to the dogma. <br /><br />I haven't seen or heard anything from this current band of outliers which suggestsHenry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-53773314693920800832019-05-19T08:44:31.428+01:002019-05-19T08:44:31.428+01:00While arguments are strong and just to abandon vio...While arguments are strong and just to abandon violence, SF have also abandoned the objective of a totally free united Ireland. The proposed agreed Ireland is not it and they've no right to abandon the objective even if they propose new means. Patrick Mooneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912745948523790308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23806867193138056712019-05-19T01:11:16.839+01:002019-05-19T01:11:16.839+01:00True words. However what young Damien fails to men...True words. However what young Damien fails to mention is that the old regime's failures have been inherited by the new generation. The provos failed and failed miserably. It seems that Damien and people of his mindset are adhering to that old Beckett adage "Try again, fail again, fail better" and thus to quote a SF slogan circa 1998, perhaps Dee it really is "time for change; Emmett Groganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03761525073488146105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-17681566683255596852019-05-18T22:54:54.003+01:002019-05-18T22:54:54.003+01:00The article does not take into consideration the r...The article does not take into consideration the reasoning of stalwart Republican critics of SF. While Dee is spot on about SF his inability to grasp the problems of trenchant pursuit of a failed strategy does not bode well. The author seems unable to grasp the concept of changing and adapt strategy to suit the political landscape. The tactics of violent dissidents are only going to result in Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57276616061982924762019-05-18T20:05:57.099+01:002019-05-18T20:05:57.099+01:00https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v...https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=fZSU7YZX_NE<br /><br />He is 100% in this analysis and the words "they changed we didnt" drive it all home. I spoke at event in Fermanagh last January and met there a man who first approached me at the age of 14 and asked why I had not considered Joining the Republican movement yet. So I did and within a few years experienced my first Tarlach Mac Dhónaillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069746947899214299noreply@blogger.com