tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post1248631829884700247..comments2024-03-29T12:58:12.735+00:00Comments on TPQ: People ... Know Liars When They Hear ThemAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-61129198100212918332016-12-17T19:22:33.174+00:002016-12-17T19:22:33.174+00:00Henry JoY,
You have made interesting comments wh...Henry JoY, <br /><br />You have made interesting comments which are difficult to find fault with. Food for thought.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90902940541872395982016-12-17T10:16:08.238+00:002016-12-17T10:16:08.238+00:00Simon
your comments about selfishness and corrupt...Simon<br /><br />your comments about selfishness and corruption are well made.<br /><br />There are however considerations to be made about each individual's unique socialisation process too: what differences in upbringing, education and access to a comfortable standard of living contributes to formation of character and personality? What forces converge in the making of a 'Hume' as Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-38359832472687168012016-12-16T19:09:32.580+00:002016-12-16T19:09:32.580+00:00Henry JoY, I never despised Hume. He wasn't th...Henry JoY, I never despised Hume. He wasn't the sort to focus on Republican violence and ignore British state violence. I can quite like a politician who attacks Republican violence and at the same time attacks British state violence. That's a principled stance and a logical one. You don't necessarily have to agree with it. When politicians fervently attack Republicans and ignore Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-520285939595818552016-12-16T09:10:56.006+00:002016-12-16T09:10:56.006+00:00Simon
at this stage of my life I'm now of the...Simon<br /><br />at this stage of my life I'm now of the opinion that most people at any given point in time are doing the best that they can with the resources they have available to them. Insofar as I can appraise our history and the various players I have now come to believe that Hume was exceptionally resourced in terms of his moral courage and political leadership. Like AM I once loathedHenry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-16095968666951315912016-12-16T07:40:46.011+00:002016-12-16T07:40:46.011+00:00Steve R,
it is hardly unusual for people to despi...Steve R,<br /><br />it is hardly unusual for people to despise rivals. Their goal was unity by consent which Adams described as a partitionist fudge. Our goal was unity by coercion. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60891087716304706142016-12-16T00:08:37.380+00:002016-12-16T00:08:37.380+00:00AM
"we despised Mallon, Hume, Faul, Devlin&q...AM<br /><br />"we despised Mallon, Hume, Faul, Devlin"<br /><br />Surely despised is too strong a word? When their goal was the same?Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-76250263922204109472016-12-15T22:35:02.959+00:002016-12-15T22:35:02.959+00:00Henry JoY, John Hume certainly thought the other ...Henry JoY, John Hume certainly thought the other MPs were against it and asked them if they were putting the party before peace. I guess Hume, himself, suspected it was electoral suicide for the SDLP. <br /><br />The rest of the SDLP in pure de Valera style were making sure Hume and Hume alone signed the SDLP's death warrant.<br /><br />Now Mallon appreciates the relative absence of violenceSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90340696069506501032016-12-15T17:45:17.276+00:002016-12-15T17:45:17.276+00:00AM
fair point, crapping on people isn't exact...AM<br /><br />fair point, crapping on people isn't exactly life affirming.<br />As Christie Walsh has pointed out in some of his articles questioning as to whom is the rightful beneficiary of proceeds from Bobby's writings these Sinn Féin pretenders have no problem riding on poor Bobby's back. They have stolen the SDLP's clothes too but lack the integrity of the likes of Hume or Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-43887542227474122602016-12-13T21:14:16.616+00:002016-12-13T21:14:16.616+00:00I remember back during the Hume Adams talks that t...I remember back during the Hume Adams talks that the newspapers were reporting Seamus Mallon as being upset, unsupportive and criticising the talks. <br /><br />In fact in Eamonn Mallie and David McKittrick's book they write "The party's other three MPs - Seamus Mallon, Eddie McGrady and Dr Joe Hendron - had both publicly and privately made no secret of the fact that they did not Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-76150617509760345072016-12-13T20:53:23.349+00:002016-12-13T20:53:23.349+00:00AM,
Very good lol.AM,<br />Very good lol.Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32053927196808761872016-12-13T18:11:24.302+00:002016-12-13T18:11:24.302+00:00Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked ...Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet-engines - Steven WrightAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-18869119980723683892016-12-13T16:33:41.196+00:002016-12-13T16:33:41.196+00:00Weasels are consistent in their behavior....still ...Weasels are consistent in their behavior....still doesn't endear you to them!Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-64892935397509604132016-12-13T16:06:10.024+00:002016-12-13T16:06:10.024+00:00Henry Joy,
not so sure it is about them choosing ...Henry Joy,<br /><br />not so sure it is about them choosing life. I think Mallon et al actually believed in their brand of politics. I don't see these people believing in anything. In many ways, they more than any criminalisation strategy have negated the herculean efforts of Bobby Sands. He was a political person whereas these people are anything but. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48107211412386359582016-12-13T15:46:38.066+00:002016-12-13T15:46:38.066+00:00AM
if I may be somewhat Camusean on this: Mallon ...AM<br /><br />if I may be somewhat Camusean on this: Mallon and hiis ilk chose life. We being young and foolish chose death. <br />That many now have made that leap to choosing life is to be greatly welcomed. What's questionable is their dishonesty about the process.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-17081544220963906792016-12-13T14:02:35.641+00:002016-12-13T14:02:35.641+00:00Henry Joy,
we despised Mallon, Hume, Faul, Devlin...Henry Joy,<br /><br />we despised Mallon, Hume, Faul, Devlin ... basically anybody who would not acquiesce in our view of the world. The irony is that so many who lived in our world then eagerly moved into the world Mallon and company inhabited. <br /><br />The SDLP for all sins we might attribute to it was remarkably consistent. Nor did the party crap on us like our own leadership did. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87136257652501432362016-12-13T13:56:19.780+00:002016-12-13T13:56:19.780+00:00It's funny Niall should think of the term &quo...It's funny Niall should think of the term "weasel" because whenever I saw the late <br />Cardinal Cathal Daly years ago on TV the phrase "weasel" always popped into my head.<br />Bertie is attempting to make a comeback. Maybe that also applies to Mallon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16890744648034454941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-46308107510908099942016-12-13T13:37:04.094+00:002016-12-13T13:37:04.094+00:00My lasting memory of Seamus Mallon is in the docum...My lasting memory of Seamus Mallon is in the documentary crying tears for an armed RUC man friend of his who was shot manning a check-point in Armagh shortly after two unarmed INLA volunteers had been shot dead by the RUC at a 'road block' that never existed. How sad SF are now totally 'out - doing' the SDLP at stooping.<br /><br />Gerry Adams endless scandals and lies are larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-91277369436863842322016-12-13T09:34:13.523+00:002016-12-13T09:34:13.523+00:00Niall
Yes, Mallon irked a lot of people over a lo...Niall<br /><br />Yes, Mallon irked a lot of people over a long period of time with his pronouncements.In the end of the day though his voice of reason called things more accurately than most others and especially more so than Adams and crew.<br />There were and are loads of more slippery weasels in the political sphere than Seamus. <br />And sadly loads of very slow learners too!Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-46128631111120484192016-12-12T21:18:58.121+00:002016-12-12T21:18:58.121+00:00Not a big fan of Mallon at all....the term weasel ...Not a big fan of Mallon at all....the term weasel comes to mind every time he is resurrected......never hear of him when the Finucanes need him!<br />Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.com