tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post1074007269701962328..comments2024-03-29T15:14:51.289+00:00Comments on TPQ: How Sad And Delusional The Last Twenty YearsAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-40728908130678455742017-04-21T13:33:26.571+01:002017-04-21T13:33:26.571+01:00Steve R
Absolutely agree. Paisley and Gusty Spen...Steve R <br /><br />Absolutely agree. Paisley and Gusty Spence and false fleg attacks all played into a Pandora's box being flung violently open and all 'Gerry and the Peacemakers' wanted all along was equality within the UK. Go figure!larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-85683119920173933332017-04-20T23:00:19.508+01:002017-04-20T23:00:19.508+01:00Larry,
"The IRA had abandoned armed struggle...Larry,<br /><br />"The IRA had abandoned armed struggle after the pathetic 1950s border campaign. The people of the six counties rejected them then and their armed activity. The British poured petrol on the ashes instead of letting it die. "<br /><br />Don't forget my lot were whipped up into a fear frenzy about a supposed renewed IRA campaign by religious bigots, we were then told Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23108863894880359212017-04-20T21:52:55.397+01:002017-04-20T21:52:55.397+01:00James,
each time we post we expose our position t...James,<br /><br />each time we post we expose our position to challenge. You have the right to express yourself as you see fit ... and the rest of us have the right to respond should we choose to.<br />I'd still make a distinction between education and indoctrination and I read your comment as advocating for the latter. (As it seems Larry did too).Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58811772936490062532017-04-20T09:30:45.388+01:002017-04-20T09:30:45.388+01:00Henry JoY
I see you aspire to the right to criti...Henry JoY <br />I see you aspire to the right to critical thinking. Does that right trickle down to gobbing it even though we may not be as grounded or mature as yourself?<br /><br />Larry<br />No, I was not suggesting that but rather passing on by example and deed the 'higher value on understanding,reason and learning' as Henry JoY referred to.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04166605274886767312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49513900099886324872017-04-20T08:08:08.096+01:002017-04-20T08:08:08.096+01:00Fionnuala,
apologies for the gender-bias in my pr...Fionnuala,<br /><br />apologies for the gender-bias in my previous comment.<br /><br />Inculcation and indoctrination produced child-soldiers. Obviously females were not spared falling prey to it either.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87552472890401905182017-04-19T22:54:30.734+01:002017-04-19T22:54:30.734+01:00Fionnuala
The IRA had abandoned armed struggle af...Fionnuala<br /><br />The IRA had abandoned armed struggle after the pathetic 1950s border campaign. The people of the six counties rejected them then and their armed activity. The British poured petrol on the ashes instead of letting it die. Republicanism did not become popular in itself, a means of fighting back against what was unleashed by the Brits and Stormont suddenly became popular and larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-3332305042722465962017-04-19T17:29:05.570+01:002017-04-19T17:29:05.570+01:00Sean,
to some extent we all inhabit our own bubbl...Sean,<br /><br />to some extent we all inhabit our own bubbles. <br />My own bubble was somewhat enlarged last weekend taking me from my rural retreat here in the west to county Wexford. On my journey there and back, visits to restaurants, coffee-shops and several crowded public locations I never saw a sole person spurting an Easter Lilly. Yet you'd try and tell us there's a republican Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15324071250421274932017-04-19T10:51:40.341+01:002017-04-19T10:51:40.341+01:00How come 20 years? One could go back and back and...How come 20 years? One could go back and back and pronounce the same verdict on Ireland's history of corrupted, dishonest, immoral, politics. However, the present political scene has not progressed one inch. It is hard to find any good in the system and in all those who take part. We give out about spies, informers and agent provocateurs but as if it was the past but don't realise Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04166605274886767312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-32134721882525835492017-04-19T09:12:00.531+01:002017-04-19T09:12:00.531+01:00'Democratic and lawful agitation is the way fo...'Democratic and lawful agitation is the way forward.' That's precisely what Sinn Fein have told us since the the deviated from revolution to reform and I would be interested to hear from you or anyone what has been achieved in those 20 years, since they first stated it?<br />Larry mocking people who failed to fall in with Sinn Fein's 'time out call' isn't a novel idea Fionnuala Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112456307341779243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50281229149165347422017-04-19T08:13:15.651+01:002017-04-19T08:13:15.651+01:00Fionnuala
Like it or lump it flogging the militar...Fionnuala<br /><br />Like it or lump it flogging the military option to death repeatedly holds no attraction to anyone but the sado-masochist. Until republicans present an electoral alternative to deviant SF to confront unionism at the ballot box then then the deviants will get the vote. Over to you!larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49872663753587164692017-04-18T21:07:41.674+01:002017-04-18T21:07:41.674+01:00Apologies that I lost the grasp of the point you w...Apologies that I lost the grasp of the point you were making in relation to people dressing up, you were actually saying those dressed up were or are potential informers trying to look menacing?<br />I actually thought you meant uniforms were the first clue to unearthing a potential agent, which I considered to be both naive and bemusing.<br />Predicting that Republicanism has nothing more to Fionnuala Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112456307341779243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-39173229619098613872017-04-18T20:58:51.632+01:002017-04-18T20:58:51.632+01:00Fionnuala
It is the nature of 'politics'...Fionnuala <br /><br />It is the nature of 'politics' in the North that it is a sectarian headcount. SF offer little other than a measurement of the Nationalist vote. Republicans dreaming of Catholic Protestant and Dissenter (fairy-tale stuff) may not like a good old sectarian head count, but it is what it is. Theresa May has just announced another one in June. Republicanism provides us larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-73899123751225861352017-04-18T20:55:59.150+01:002017-04-18T20:55:59.150+01:00The only 'guff' on this thread is the tire...The only 'guff' on this thread is the tired, defeatist nonsense that a New Republic is not a 'sustainable solution'. The trouble with those like 'Henry Joy' is they have convinced themselves of their own bullshit to the point it is now their mantra. There is certainly something bordering on fanatical regards his self-flagellating commentary on this site.<br /><br />DespiteSean Bresnahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842180620284317746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50375314177429348952017-04-18T19:54:03.142+01:002017-04-18T19:54:03.142+01:00Just the type of analysis that should be expected ...Just the type of analysis that should be expected from a Sinn Fein voter, be it latter day.<br />Not too sure if people dressing up and walking through towns has any serious correlations with British Agents? Wooolifs in sheep's clothing might be out there, but I'm not sure that's quite how they are pinpointed.<br />There's nothing wrong with Republicanism going back to its roots, Fionnuala Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16112456307341779243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-3549954701930007222017-04-18T19:04:26.647+01:002017-04-18T19:04:26.647+01:00James,
ilk can equally refer to a person or to a ...James,<br /><br />ilk can equally refer to a person or to a thing of similar nature or qualities. Nothing derogatory intended. <br /> <br />Workable sustainable solutions take precedent over idealised and idolised guff.Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-70135672610709048372017-04-18T17:10:25.505+01:002017-04-18T17:10:25.505+01:00Henry JoY 'Ilk' is a nasty word, rude and ...Henry JoY 'Ilk' is a nasty word, rude and angry, reducing a person to a thing. In your cryptic response it sticks out like a sore thumb. What does not stick out is your any sense of your 'ideal'. <br /><br />Isn't it funny that one of your assumptions is correct i.e Brexit may have brought the issue of 'unification' to a head is one 'Sean crew' have Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04166605274886767312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-86107328432659940042017-04-18T17:05:44.472+01:002017-04-18T17:05:44.472+01:00Henry Joy
In you haste to be critical you missed ...Henry Joy<br /><br />In you haste to be critical you missed the thrust of it all. The delusion mentioned is that of those who oversaw 30 years of chaos, surrendered shamelessly but still retain an air of authority in their own heads. Read it again ten times for homework!larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14108373795840685992017-04-18T11:17:07.757+01:002017-04-18T11:17:07.757+01:00Thanks Larry. It seems to me the wheels of change ...Thanks Larry. It seems to me the wheels of change are already in motion. Who is steering the bus is a problem at present but as you suggest in your article, those we are talking about are not immune to the wants and attitudes of the public. For groups like ourselves to succeed we must begin interacting with others of like mind, building a consensus together that can impact on power in the manner Sean Bresnahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842180620284317746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-88560627254860347532017-04-18T11:12:12.474+01:002017-04-18T11:12:12.474+01:00Larry,
the last twenty years were hardly as sad o...Larry,<br /><br />the last twenty years were hardly as sad or delusional as compared with the thirty previous ones.<br />By what measures could we evaluate the differences?<br />In terms of sadness we'd have to first look at the casualty lists; the numbers killed and the numbers of catastrophic injuries. We'd have to count the numbers incarcerated and compare sentences served. Were the Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-31674222589927107082017-04-18T10:04:49.303+01:002017-04-18T10:04:49.303+01:00Very interesting Larry....liked that about the par...Very interesting Larry....liked that about the parading and agents abound. I know of one 'top' dissident who never fired a shot and as far as I am aware has never been arrested yet his minions flaff around him...may be it's because their stupid or like playing at Volunteers without the threat of prison or actually doing something!<br />As for the border poll....it's momentum is Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.com